General Park Discussion/Feedback/Questions

It's easier if it's kept to one thread or it's just like two individual runs.

 

That's the point. It's too biased if it's done on the same run because of the reasons Jess said and more. Though there isn't really anything stopping a Ranger doing just Ranger runs and not other people as of right now anyway, but we don't because that's not fair and I trust all my Rangers to take all people through, not just their buddies.

If this was going to be implemented, which I don't see happening, we could maybe limit it, like they do for story deals. Ranger deals. Maybe one or two a month only. It was just something we were talking about that would've been fun if it had been possible. At least I didn't see it happening except in two separate threads.

 

Okay. I didn't think doing this was going to be a problem. As of right now, I have Buoysel and he has me. We are on seperate runs and seperate places. What I wanted to do (not in this particular case) was since we both needed a Ranger we would both just go on a run together if we were going to the same place and I'd ranger him and he'd ranger me (again, this is just an example). It would be like a team run except the pay is the same and we can't swap Pokemon.

People can't really say we'll cheat for each other if we went together on a run together because if we wanted too (which we don't, and like Winter said, I trust my Rangers), we could do it on seperate runs (which is much more unnoticable in my opinion, and no I'm not saying we cheat, I was just saying). Same thing when you say it would be too baised. We can already take each other on runs, so if you think this is a problem then I guess there is a problem if a Ranger takes another Ranger on a run in a seperate thread because it is basically the same thing. I just thought it would be easier and a lot more fun if we went on the same run while Rangering each other. It doesn't really have to be done /;. ​

 

If this is instituted, it shouldn't get Team Run pay though :/ Since it's just two separate individual runs going on at the same time.

 

All Winter and I was planning to do was take each other on separate individual runs (so different threads) to the same Park Location and Ranger each other through our runs simultaneously, and in the plot we'd link the runs together. I can't see anything wrong with this - it's just two Rangers happening to take each other on runs. It's not like we'd skip over the currently waiting Trainers to take each other.

It's not like this hasn't happened before - Bee and Buoysel are doing it currently, Buzz and Winter were doing it before (although that was for Winter + Me Team Run) and I believe (although I may be wrong) that Syn and I were Rangering each other for a brief period of time. I don't see anything wrong with it as long as the order of Trainers at the Front Gate is preserved.

 

Something I've been wondering for a while is how come there are so few areas in the Park? it's safe to say that now is when it's one of the most active times it's ever had. I can see why it was kept small at the start, but I don't see why when there are a ton of people who frequent, and, have been to most or all areas by now.

One of theproblems with this is that if Pokemon are removed from several locations and put in others, they do become easier to obtain. But what if Pokemon could be caught in several locations? Say Beedrill could easily belong in the woods, the great marsh or just about anything.

Bear in mind this is just a thought so yeah.

 

Yeah, agreed.

 

Interesting idea, but it'd complicate things and make it harder to obtain the Pokemon you want. As for too few areas - there are eight of them. I'd be willing to bet that no one has been to them all yet. More areas aren't really needed yet. The only area I could imagine that might be interesting to put in would be some kind of beach area - it's always kinda bothered me a little that freshwater and saltwater Pokemon live in such close proximity. But nah, imo everything is fine the way it is atm.

 

Interesting idea, but it'd complicate things and make it harder to obtain the Pokemon you want. As for too few areas - there are eight of them. I'd be willing to bet that no one has been to them all yet. More areas aren't really needed yet. The only area I could imagine that might be interesting to put in would be some kind of beach area - it's always kinda bothered me a little that freshwater and saltwater Pokemon live in such close proximity. But nah, imo everything is fine the way it is atm.

 

I've been everywhere ;]

EDIT: well, except the woods because there is nothing interesting there.

 

Aha, my point stands then =P

Also, how is Scyther (AND PARAS!!) not interesting?

 

Because I have those. Besides, it would be hard to get those since there is so much shit at the woods, you'd be better off writing for those xD

Fine then, I'll go to the woods. Then I'll have been everywhere.

 

Park is already easier than stories. If you don't like the way it works, write a story instead. If you make mons too easy to get, Park in general becomes too easy and we all know what happened last time that was the issue.

 

But he didn't say that he didn't like it :[, he was just giving an idea. Also, why must you keep comparing park and stories ;_;

 

Because they're the closest related thing. I just get a titch agitated when people complain about Park being hard when it's actually pretty easy compared to the other modes of capture. Just don't want someone labeling it too easy again so we have to change everything up again. I like the way things work right now. I think they go pretty smoothly. I'm not against the idea of a couple new areas, but if some mons are too easy to get, that won't do and it probably won't fly anyway. You've seen how our disks work.

 

I'm saying that it would be more unfair if two Rangers were Ranging for each other in the same RP because in order to get the best Mon out of their runs as early as possible, both Rangers could let each other have the best Mon out of the list right from the get-go. Or if there's a Mon they know the other wants, they could make it appear very early in the run as a favor. Now I'm not saying Rangers can't make good Mon appear right away for regular Trainers, but for Rangers taking each other through the Park, it would be more of a worry because both parties, being able to assist the other, might be more tempted to do it.

The main thing is that both parties are getting not only Mon for their run, but getting Ranger pay as well. It's not fair to normal Trainers who only get Mon and no Wages.

On top of that, Ranger characters and Trainer characters are two separate people, thus why Rangers have two separate SUs. Taking a Ranger through the Park as a Trainer kinda breaks the system. Like dividing by 0 or something like that.

I'd still like to talk to Sam first about it.

 

We've been going through the Park as Trainers with our Ranger characters for a while now. (On a side note, you can have more than one Trainer character anyway, as long as the Ranger has a Ranger character for the purpose of the job its fine) It doesn't really matter if you're going through as a Trainer because you're still just doing the Trainer part. You're just roleplaying as a Ranger instead of some regular dude. As long as you're not Rangering in the same thread (and all of us keep restating why this is bad) it shouldn't be a problem. If someone wants to roleplay as a Ranger, who cares, so long as they're not getting paid for it.

I don't think two Rangers should Ranger each other in the same thread. As far as the bias goes, a Ranger can give a good mon right away for anyone. When I Ranger, if I find a Trainer's first few posts are good, I'll throw something decent at them within the first one or two usually.

On that note, if we want to prevent people from getting one or two mons they want and then leaving and resigning up, we could halfway establish the old week wait rule. Say they don't have a waiting period only if they go through all encounters, and if they leave early they have to wait 3-4 days or something.

I thought I talked to Sam about multiple characters and he didn't mind, but I could be wrong. I don't see the big deal about it.

 

Agreed. They can do this in regular runs. Just because they go on a run in the same thread doesn't mean anything in my opinion, but nothing can be done now I suppose until you talk to Samule.

As of them waiting 3-4 days, I don't know whether or not I agree with this or not. I kind of like it and them waiting a couple of days before entering back into the park, but I don't know if its fair to make them wait because they got what they wanted and didn't want to keep on going on a run for stuff they don't want. ​

 

I don't really mind them not waiting, since they still have to do the work to capture the mons they want anyway, but if someone didn't like how things were going, that's a possible suggestion. I mean Rangers could modify that themselves if they wanted, by holding back mons they know they want until they at least see a couple (barring use of a disk of course). It doesn't really matter in the end, but it's good to have alternatives if something isn't working. Sometimes I get annoyed when a Ranger rolls a whole list and whatnot, and then the Trainer gets what they want first or second mon and then leaves. That's just me though, and not always. Idk, seems like the Ranger gets shafted a bit, since they prepared stuff for a whole run and then can't finish it before Trainer quits and goes off with someone else. Like I said before though, Rangers could modify that if they wanted.

 

Yes, I see what you mean. I agree that they should hold some Pokemon back, but then there are some people who don't care and will just do the minimum until they get what they want, and unless they post badly, there isn't really anything you can do to penalize them further. Still like your idea though that they should hold them back, but I only see that working with Rare/Special Pokemon since like you said, they could just use disks so maybe we can think of something, idk.