Pokemon XY Discussion, Research, Suggestion & Preparation

It was "No."

 

I'd like to hear the reasons against it/if that's still the consensus going forwards now.

 

- Massive arse-pain.
- No proven rise in interest.
- Appeal to tradition. (lel)
- There's already lots of changes in the works regarding Gen VI, last thing we need is another addition to muddy the waters.
- We strive for game emulation in most matters.
- See Monbrey for some amusing gifs on the subject.

There are/were others but quite frankly I cannot remember them. Although, if you guys scream loud enough and long enough, things might change. As always, come back with a fully written-out proposal and Staff will discuss it.

If you work -really- hard, you might get into Staff and then be able to influence this kind of stuff.

#freemasterballsforeveryone #comingsoon

 

Game emulation in most matters....There's barely anything close to game emulation here. Instead of trying to imitate a game why not just take the game mechanics (i.e the battling), like we have for the last 14 years, but take a step away from traditional gyms that follow the game and finally create something of our own. Traditions eventually change over time. With the activity at it's current state there's no reason to have so many and many are still empty. No reason for someone to have more than one gym either.

ChainReaction mentioned no rise in interest of having our own league. That interest has obviously risen and it's something that needs to be openly discussed within the URPG Staff once again.

You claim that it's another addition to muddy waters and calling it a pain in the arse. Massive if you want a correct quote. When in actuality it's not. Right now we have the so-called "League Organizers"; one for each region. Just let one person take over as the LO and let them create the new gyms with the rules and limitations. As far as who can be gym leaders....those who have had gyms for a long while (2 years as an example) force them to step down and allow someone else who fits the requirements to take over a gym. And yes, that means Monbrey wouldn't be gym leader anymore. But if there is no one else willing or able to take over the gym then the current gym leaders of their respectful types would stand.

There's many ways it can work if the staff would have an open mind and listen carefully to what people are wanting and are willing to make a fair compromise. I know it can work.

What I said above is all example and a thought. I know no one will actually agree with it but it is just one suggestion that can be taken into consideration.

 

I'm confused as to why we would kick out long standing gym leaders. Like, that part seems like a teri-bad idea.

 

Was an example/suggestion and its to give others a chance

Edit: Another suggestion would be for gym leaders of the same type to battle it out with their gym line up and the winner would hold the URPG gym. There are many ways to go about doing it.

 

Hey, I'm in no danger no matter the decision. Nobody else wants a Rock Gym, except for Haze, and he hasn't been here in forever.

 

Mod input: I like holding onto the gyms from the game because it's traditional. However, at this current time we will have too many gyms to fill and keep track of. I am in favor of scrapping the system and reducing the number to sixteen or eight. For multiple leaders of the same type, determine through their stats and activity, or make them battle it out.

tldr; reduce to sixteen. I would vote for a change.​

 

Like I said, if this is a serious suggestion that you guys really would like Staff input on, write up a proposal and post it in the Trainer's Court. This thread is for discussing stuff that has been confirmed, researching the new games, any quick suggestions and preparations that need to be done. This seems like something that will probably spiral, so let's remove the clutter and give this proposed Gym rework it's own thread.

 

Wouldn't reducing the gyms to one of each type be 18 gyms and not 16?

 

I agree. I'm planning to do a formal writeup of the suggestion with comments so far and a layout of how I think people want it to be implemented some time before tomorrow night.

OT:

This seems to be a complete list of all known move changes for X/Y. Granted it is posted by a member with only 4 posts, but it was just a translation of another site's work and also, I've seen maybe everything posted there in other threads/sites. Having one list is tidy and convenient.

 

close enough.​

 

I dont see why there needs to be a proposal instead of just a discussion with ideas thrown back and forth and the staff taking that picking the best bits and hashing something together from it after all thats what the staff is here for to help push the community forward - ask monbrey for more details but if either of you got onto aim for any length of time (chain/ATF) you might of noticed that this topic has been discussed back and forth during the day.

From that conversation 2 of each gym type seems like the optimal layout with although this isnt reducing the overall number of gyms by a massive amount it does even the spread of gyms (Rock/Electric/Water) which happen to be very common gym types will be reduced while Dark will finally get two gyms and fairy an additional one. As well as some other slight reshuffling this will get rid of some Gyms setting it at 36. This will ensure that most current active gym leaders stand a chance at claiming a gym as well as leaving stuff open for newer members to aspire towards. It also deals with the Issues of Timezones and inactivity (mostly temporary inactivity that doesn't require a leader to be replaced - say winter for example who although around has reduced her activity significantly due to school)

In regards to people losing there gyms i think with the introduction of Dark and an additional Fairy Gym as well as forcing everyone to re apply that Current Gym leaders will stand a fair chance at getting a Gym type they want while still allowing others to try (for instance monbrey who has held his gym for a long time should be better at defending it than random nub a with a wider range of em'd pokes and experience he should get a fire gym again. without any real concern)

As for people Currently with badges there's been two trains of thought - if you have a badge from a gym now it converts to the new gym type in the urpg league (Eterna's Forest Badge for instance would convert to generic urpg grass badge) With the addition of Fairy type and Dark type as gyms no one will have a full set of UPRG Gym Badges upon gen 6 launch in urpg or the launch of this system if there not implemented at the same time

The other suggestion is that everyone starts fresh i feel if this option is chosen that we would need to implement some kind of legacy system where the achievement of defeating one of the old gyms mattered somehow - not sure how or what this would be but it would be a shame for people who spent time and effort to earn badges to just go NOPE that didn't count

anyway feel free to treat me like shit and demand we all send proposals rather than just hearing us out in a more casual manner

 

I actually like that up above there. Airik's post. Mhm.

All I really gotta add is... needs more RP. I'm-a think on that for a day and maybe a bit.

 

maybe old badges could be converted into money or an item or a pokemon depending on how many were previously obtained?

there should also be a way for people who dont get a gym right away to get one eventually. not sure if this is already a thing or not, but maybe there should be some difficult way to replace an active gym leader? like more challenging then beating them in one battle, but not impossible.

anyway, this is all assuming things are even changed which they might not be. It doesn't affect me much at the moment, but i wanted to give a suggestion i guess...

 

I went ahead and submitted that proposal. I know it's not much but it is late at night and it gives a proper thread to discuss this matter in.

 

There needs to be a proposal in a separate thread because otherwise threads that have a certain purpose like, say, preparing an online game for a particular new addition spread out into other discussions like, say, WildCard possibilities and new Gym organisations. This thread is about what has changed and what will change in the URPG in relation to Gen VI, not any player-designed Gym Leagues.

Any further posts discussing a change in Gym structure will be deleted.

Also, regarding AIM: some of us work for a living. URPG isn't the most important thing in my life. That doesn't mean I don't care about it - I do. I just don't have time for every single online discussion.

 

Edit by Chainy: Then don't post.

Edit by Monbrey: lol'd at Chainy's edit.

Edit by Airik: Removed as per your request fine sir

Edit by Chainy: No need to do so, finer sir, I respect your opinions: just didn't want them clogging the thread as per my earlier statement.

Edit by Monbrey: I really like this trend of making the edits longer and more elaborate as they continue on down the list, but it kinda gets into a danger of there being these ridiculously long run-on sentences that ramble, don't make much sense, and should be avoided wherever possible because it makes someone's thought processes difficult to follow which really isn't ideal in a forum based discussion such as this one we're having here in our extended edit conversation.

Edit by Airik: Ahh most esteemed Monbrey if you like the idea of epic elaborate run on sentences while trying to follow a plot perhaps chock full of grammatical and spelling errors perhaps i can direct you towards PWN's Story section there i have written for your delectation a collection of equally terrible short stories all of which are full of the terrible english that i practice one a near daily basis however if you prefer someone using the queens english in a correct and just fashion the fine mister blue towel has just posted a delightful fable about a lotad and a pikachu hopefully one of these equally exciting options will tickle your fancy in only such a way as a particularly filthy harlot dressed in a french maids outfit complete with feather duster might

 

Everyone in the URPG is Crazy,

 

If we weren't we wouldn't be any fun. Which is why you love us and still partake every now and then =P