Pokemon XY Discussion, Research, Suggestion & Preparation

good job smores;o

I'm like 90% sure roar/whirlwind are affected by weight differences between Pokemon now. I saw this speculated somewhere after they had no affect on certain Pokemon.

regarding Flying Press, it hits Steel for neutral and gets stab only once iirc.

 

Level up movepools and TM learnset:

Honedge:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Tackle
Lv1 - Swords Dance
Lv1 - Metal Sound
Lv5 - Fury Cutter
Lv8 - Metal Sound
Lv13 - Pursuit
Lv18 - Autotomize
Lv20 - Shadow Sneak
Lv22 - Aerial Ace
Lv26 - Retaliate
Lv32 - Iron Defense
Lv35 - Night Slash
Lv39 - Power Trick
Lv42 - Iron Head
Lv47 - Sacred Sword

TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM54 False Swipe
TM65 Shadow Claw
TM67 Retaliate
TM74 Gyro Ball
TM75 Swords Dance
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM94 Rock Smash
TM100 Confide
HM01 Cut

Doublade:

Spoiler

Lv41 - Power Trick
Lv45 - Iron Head
Lv51 - Sacred Sword

TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM54 False Swipe
TM65 Shadow Claw
TM67 Retaliate
TM74 Gyro Ball
TM75 Swords Dance
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM94 Rock Smash
TM100 Confide
HM01 Cut

Aegislash:

Spoiler

Lv<45 - Fury Cutter
Lv<45 - Pursuit
Lv<45 - Automize
Lv<45 - Slash
Lv<45 - Iron Defense
Lv<45 - Night Slash
Lv<45 - Power Trick
Lv<45 - Head Smash
Lv<45 - Swords Dance
Lv<45 - King's Shield
Lv<45 - Sacred Sword

TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM30 Shadow Ball
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM54 False Swipe
TM65 Shadow Claw
TM67 Retaliate
TM68 Giga Impact
TM74 Gyro Ball
TM75 Swords Dance
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM94 Rock Smash
TM100 Confide

HM01 Cut

Spritzee:

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Lv1 - Fairy Wind
Lv1 - Sweet Scent
Lv<14 - Sweet Kiss
Lv<14 - Odor Sleuth
Lv<14 - Echoed Voice
Lv17 - Calm Mind
Lv21 - Draining Kiss
Lv25 - Aromatherapy

TM04 - Calm Mind
TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM11 - Sunny Day
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM21 - Frustration
TM24 - Thunderbolt
TM27 - Return
TM29 - Psychic
TM32 - Double Team
TM33 - Reflect
TM41 - Torment
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM49 - Echoed Voice
TM53 - Energy Ball
TM57 - Charge Beam
TM70 - Flash
TM74 - Gyro Ball
TM77 - Psych Up
TM85 - Dream Eater
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM91 - Flash Cannon
TM92 - Trick Room
TM99 - Dazzling Gleam
TM100 - Confide

Aromatisse:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Aromatic Mist
Lv1 - Heal Pulse
Lv<31 - Sweet Scent
Lv<31 - Fairy Wind
Lv<31 - Sweet Kiss
Lv<31 - Odor Sleuth
Lv<31 - Echoed Voice
Lv<31 - Aromatherapy
Lv<31 - Attract
Lv31 - Moonblast
Lv35 - Charm
Lv38 - Flail
Lv42 - Misty Terrain
Lv44 - Skill Swap
Lv48 - Psychic
Lv53 - Disarming Voice
Lv57 - Reflect
Lv64 - Psych Up

TM03 - Psyshock
TM04 - Calm Mind
TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM11 - Sunny Day
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM21 - Frustration
TM24 - Thunderbolt
TM25 - Thunder
TM27 - Return
TM29 - Psychic
TM32 - Double Team
TM33 - Reflect
TM41 - Torment
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM49 - Echoed Voice
TM53 - Energy Ball
TM57 - Charge Beam
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM70 - Flash
TM74 - Gyro Ball
TM77 - Psych Up
TM85 - Dream Eater
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM91 - Flash Cannon
TM92 - Trick Room
TM99 - Dazzling Gleam
TM100 - Confide

Amaura:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Growl
Lv1 - Powder Snow
Lv6 - Thunder Wave
Lv10 - Rock Throw
Lv13 - Icy Wind
Lv15 - Take Down
Lv18 - Mist
Lv20 - Aurora Beam
Lv26 - Ancient Power
Lv30 - Round
Lv34 - Avalanche
Lv38 - Hail
Lv41 - Nature Power
Lv44 - Encore
Lv47 - Light Screen
Lv50 - Ice Beam
Lv57 - Hyper Beam

TM04 Calm Mind
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM37 Sandstorm
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM57 Charge Beam
TM69 Rock Polish
TM70 Flash
TM71 Stone Edge
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM77 Psych Up
TM78 Bulldoze
TM79 Frost Breath
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM85 Dream Eater
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM94 Rock Smash
TM96 Nature Power
TM97 Dark Pulse
TM100 Confide

Auroros:

Spoiler

Lv<56 - Freeze Dry
Lv56 - Ice Beam
Lv63 - Hyper Beam
Lv74 - Blizzard
Lv77 - Freeze Dry

TM04 Calm Mind
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM10 Hidden Power
TM13 Ice Beam
TM14 Blizzard
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM16 Light Screen
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM20 Safeguard
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM29 Psychic
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM37 Sandstorm
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM57 Charge Beam
TM68 Giga Impact
TM69 Rock Polish
TM70 Flash
TM71 Stone Edge
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM77 Psych Up
TM78 Bulldoze
TM79 Frost Breath
TM80 Rock Slide
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM85 Dream Eater
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM94 Rock Smash
TM96 Nature Power
TM97 Dark Pulse
TM100 Confide

Bergmite:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Tackle
Lv1 - Bite
Lv1 - Harden
Lv5 - Powder Snow
Lv10 - Icy Wind
Lv15 - Take Down
Lv20 - Sharpen
Lv22 - Curse
Lv26 - Ice Fang
Lv30- Ice Ball
Lv35 - Rapid Spin
Lv39 - Avalanche
Lv43 - Blizzard
Lv47 - Recover
Lv49 - Double-Edge

TM06 - Toxic
TM07 - Hail
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM27 - Return
TM32 - Double Team
TM39 - Rock Tomb
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM69 - Rock Polish
TM70 - Flash
TM71 - Stone Edge
TM74 - Gyro Ball
TM79 - Frost Breath
TM80 - Rock Slide
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM91 - Flash Cannon
TM94 - Rock Smash
TM100 - Confide
HM03 - Surf
HM04 - Strength

Avalugg:

Spoiler

Lv0 - Iron Defense
Lv0 - Skull Bash
Lv0 - Crunch
Lv46 - Blizzard
Lv51 - Recover
Lv56 - Double-Edge
Lv60 - Skull Bash
Lv65 - Crunch

TM05 - Roar
TM06 - Toxic
TM07 - Hail
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM13 - Ice Beam
TM14 - Blizzard
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM26 - Earthquake
TM27 - Return
TM32 - Double Team
TM39 - Rock Tomb
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM48 - Round
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM69 - Rock Polish
TM70 - Flash
TM71 - Stone Edge
TM74 - Gyro Ball
TM78 - Bulldoze
TM79 - Frost Breath
TM80 - Rock Slide
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM91 - Flash Cannon
TM94 - Rock Smash
TM100 - Confide
HM03 - Surf
HM04 - Strength

Carbink:

Spoiler

Lv01 - Tackle
Lv01 - Harden
Lv05 - Rock Throw
Lv08 - Sharpen
Lv12 - Smack Down
Lv18 - Reflect
Lv21 - Stealth Rock
Lv27 - Guard Swap
Lv31 - Ancient Power
Lv35 - Flail
Lv40 - Skill Swap
Lv46 - Power Gem
Lv49 - Stone Edge
Lv50 - Moonblast
Lv60 - Light Screen
Lv70 - Safeguard

TM04: Calm Mind
TM17: Protect
TM06: Toxic
TM07: Hail
TM10: Hidden Power
TM11: Sunny Day
TM16: Light Screen
TM17: Protect
TM20: Safeguard
TM21: Frustration
TM27: Return
TM29: Psychic
TM32: Double Team
TM33: Reflect
TM37: Sandstorm
TM39: Rock Tomb
TM42: Facade
TM44: Rest
TM48: Round
TM64: Explosion
TM69: Rock Polish
TM70: Flash
Tm71: Stone Edge
TM74: Gyro Ball
TM77: Psych Up
TM80: Rock Slide
TM87: Swagger
TM88: Sleep Talk
TM90: Substitute
TM92: Trick Room
TM96: Nature Power
TM99: Dazzling Gleam
TM100: Confide

Dedenne:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Tackle
Lv1 - Tail Whip
Lv7 - Thunder Shock
Lv11 - Charge
Lv14 - Charm
Lv17 - Parabolic Charge
Lv20 - Nuzzle
Lv23 - Thunder Wave
Lv26 - Volt Switch
Lv30 - Rest
Lv31 - Snore
Lv34 - Charge Beam
Lv39 - Entrainment
Lv42 - Play Rough
Lv45 - Thunder
Lv50 - Discharge

TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM11 - Sunny Day
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM21 - Frustration
TM24 - Thunderbolt
TM25 - Thunder
TM27 - Return
TM28 - Dig
TM32 - Double Team
TM40 - Aerial Ace
TM42 - Facade
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM46 - Thief
TM56 - Fling
TM57 - Charge Beam
TM67 - Retaliate
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM70 - Flash
TM72 - Volt Switch
TM73 - Thunder Wave
TM86 - Grass Knot
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM89 - U-Turn
TM90 - Substitute
TM93 - Wild Charge
TM100 - Confide
HM01 - Cut

Fennekin:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Scratch
Lv1 - Tail Whip
Lv5 - Ember
Lv11 - Howl
Lv14 - Flame Charge
Lv17 - Psybeam
Lv20 - Fire Spin
Lv25 - Lucky Chant
Lv27 - Light Screen
Lv31 - Psyshock
Lv35 - Flamethrower
Lv38 - Will-O-Wisp
Lv41 - Psychic
Lv43 - Sunny Day
Lv46 - Magic Room
Lv48 - Fire Blast

TM03 - Psyshock
TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM11 - Sunny Day
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM22 - Solar Beam
TM27 - Return
TM29 - Psychic
TM32 - Double Team
TM35 - Flamethrower
TM38 - Fire Blast
TM42 - Facade
TM43 - Flame Charge
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM46 - Thief
TM48 - Round
TM49 - Echoed Voice
TM50 - Overheat
TM59 - Incinerate
TM61 - Will-O-Wisp
TM63 - Embargo
TM77 - Psych Up
TM85 - Dream Eater
TM86 - Grass Knot
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM98 - Power-Up Punch
TM100 - Confide
HM01 - Cut

Delphox:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Future Sight
Lv1 - Role Play
Lv1 - Switcheroo
Lv1 - Shadow Ball
Lv36 - Mystical Fire
Lv42 - Flamethrower
Lv47 - Will-O-Wisp
Lv51 - Psychic
Lv55 - Sunny Day
Lv58 - Magic Room
Lv61 - Fire Blast
Lv69 - Future Sight
Lv75 - Mystical Fire

TM03 - Psyshock
TM04 - Calm Mind
TM06 - Toxic
TM10 - Hidden Power
TM11 - Sunny Day
TM15 - Hyper Beam
TM16 - Light Screen
TM17 - Protect
TM18 - Rain Dance
TM20 - Safeguard
TM21 - Frustration
TM22 - Solar Beam
TM27 - Return
TM29 - Psychic
TM30 - Shadow Ball
TM32 - Double Team
TM35 - Flamethrower
TM38 - Fire Blast
TM42 - Facade
TM43 - Flame Charge
TM44 - Rest
TM45 - Attract
TM46 - Thief
TM48 - Round
TM49 - Echoed Voice
TM50 - Overheat
TM59 - Incinerate
TM61 - Will-O-Wisp
TM63 - Embargo
TM68 - Giga Impact
TM77 - Psych Up
TM85 - Dream Eater
TM86 - Grass Knot
TM87 - Swagger
TM88 - Sleep Talk
TM90 - Substitute
TM92 - Trick Room
TM98 - Power-Up Punch
TM100 - Confide
HM01 - Cut

Bunnelby:

Spoiler

Lv01- Tackle
Lv01- Agility
Lv01- Leer
Lv07- Quick Attack
Lv10- Double Slap
Lv13- Mud Slap
Lv15- Take Down
Lv18- Mud Shot
Lv20- Double Kick
Lv33- Dig
Lv35- Bounce
Lv42- Super Fang
Lv47- Facade
Lv49- Earthquake

TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Smack Down
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM37 Sandstorm
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM56 Fling
TM66 Payback
TM71 Stone Edge
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM94 Rock Smash
TM96 Nature Power
TM98 Power-Up Punch
TM100 Confide

HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength

Diggersby:

Spoiler

Lv01- Hammer Arm
Lv01- Rototiller
Lv01- Bulldoze
Lv01- Swords Dance
Lv26- Odor Sleuth
Lv31- Flail
Lv37- Dig
Lv42- Bounce
Lv48- Super Fang
Lv53- Facade
Lv57- Earthquake
Lv60- Hammer Arm

TM06 Toxic
TM08 Bulk Up
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM21 Frustration
TM23 Smack Down
TM26 Earthquake
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM37 Sandstorm
TM39 Rock Tomb
TM41 Torment
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM46 Thief
TM48 Round
TM56 Fling
TM66 Payback
TM68 Giga Impact
TM71 Stone Edge
TM75 Swords Dance
TM78 Bulldoze
TM80 Rock Slide
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM94 Rock Smash
TM96 Nature Power
TM98 Power-Up Punch
TM100 Confide

HM01 Cut
HM03 Surf
HM04 Strength

Skrelp:

Spoiler

Lv01 Tackle
Lv01 Smokescreen
Lv01 Water gun
Lv05 Feint Attack
Lv09 Tail Whip
Lv13 Bubble
Lv15 Acid
Lv19 Camouflage
Lv23 Poison Tail
Lv25 Water Pulse
Lv28 Double Team
Lv32 Toxic
Lv35 Aqua Tail
Lv38 Sludge Bomb
Lv42 Hydro Pump
Lv49 Dragon Pulse

TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM09 Venoshock
TM10 Hidden Power
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM27 Return
TM30 Shadow Ball
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Sludge Wave
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM55 Scald
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM100 Confide

HM03 Surf
HM05 Waterfall

Dragalge:

Spoiler

Lv01 Dragon Tail
Lv01 Twister
Lv53 Dragon Pulse
Lv59 Dragon Tail

TM06 Toxic
TM07 Hail
TM09 Venoshock
TM10 Hidden Power
TM15 Hyper Beam
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM24 Thunderbolt
TM25 Thunder
TM27 Return
TM30 Shadow Ball
TM32 Double Team
TM34 Sludge Wave
TM36 Sludge Bomb
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM52 Focus Blast
TM55 Scald
TM68 Giga Impact
TM82 Dragon Tail
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM100 Confide

HM03 Surf
HM05 Waterfall

Furfrou:

Spoiler

Lv1 - Tackle
Lv1 - Growl
Lv8 - Sand Attack
Lv9 - Baby-Doll Eyes
Lv12 - Headbutt
Lv15 - Tail Whip
Lv22 - Bite
Lv27 - Odor Sleuth
Lv33 - Retaliate
Lv35 - Take Down
Lv38 - Charm
Lv42 - Sucker Punch
Lv48 - Cotton Guard

TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM11 Sunny Day
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM28 Dig
TM32 Double Team
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM48 Round
TM49 Echoed Voice
TM57 Charge Beam
TM67 Retaliate
TM68 Giga Impact
TM70 Flash
TM73 Thunder Wave
TM86 Grass Knot
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM89 U-turn
TM90 Substitute
TM93 Wild Charge
TM94 Rock Smash
TM95 Snarl
TM97 Dark Pulse
TM100 Confide
HM03 Surf

Goomy:

Goomy - #704 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Sliggoo:

Sliggoo - #705 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Goodra:

Goodra - #706 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Phantump:

Phantump - #708 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Gourgeist:

Trevenant - #709 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Binacle:

Binacle - #688 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Barbaracle:

Barbaracle - #689 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Chespin:

Chespin - #650 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Quiladin:

Quilladin - #651 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Chesnaught:

Chesnaught - #652 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Braixen:

Braixen - #654 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Clauncher:

Clauncher - #692 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Clawitzer:

Clawitzer - #693 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Flabebe:

Flabébé - #669 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Floette:

Floette - #670 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Florges:

Florges - #671 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Skiddo:

Skiddo - #672 - Serebii.net Pokédex

Gogoat:

Gogoat - #673 - Serebii.net Pokédex



Problem lines: Binacle/Barbaracle, Chespin/Quiladin/Chesnaught, Clauncher/Clawitzer, Braixen, Flabebe/Floette/Florges, Skiddo/Gogoat

It'd really help if someone could raise any of the problem lines up from level 1 and note what moves they learn! This includes not evolving Chespin, Clauncher, Quiladin and Braixen until sufficiently high level and bringing Pokemon to move relearner.

Got them from serebii. Potentially inaccurate but seem consistent so far

Yeah, serebii's looking pretty reliable, better than some of smogon

 

I'll goof around with Flying Press and unique type combos so we can see what happens. Will edit when I find things.

Flying Press vs. Leavanny = Super Effective!
Flying Press vs. Skorupi = Not Very Effective.
Flying Press vs. Drapion = Not Very Effective.
Flying Press vs. Probopass = Neutrally Effective.

Let me know if anything else needs to be tested, I found these to be the most relevant.

 

So anything else that can be done?

 

Leavanny, two Flying weakness, one Fighting resistance = 2x damage
Skorupi, two Fighting resistances, one Flying weakness = 1/2x damage.
Probopass, two Fighting weakness, two Flying resistances, = 1x damage

Drapion I can't figure out. It has one Fighting weakness (Dark) and one Fighting resistance (Poison). Flying is neutral to both those types. Drapion should be neutral?

Can't think of anything right now. Just keep letting me know if more stats/moves/abilities or whatever are found

 

Sorry, must've made a mistake in reporting. Tried it again and it is neutral.

Tell me if you want me to test against anything else.

 

A few more Pokemon with updated base stats:

Vileplume/75/80/85/110/90/50
Victreebel/80/105/65/100/70/70
Bellossom/75/80/95/90/100/50
Stoutland/85/110/90/45/90/80
Unfezant/80/115/80/65/55/93
Seismitoad/105/95/75/85/75/74
Leavanny/75/103/80/70/80/92

 

Not sure if you have this already. Apparently gen vi held items, gotten from Smogon:

Assault Vest - An item to be held by a Pokémon. This offensive vest raises Sp. Def but prevents the use of status moves. (i.e. Non-Attacking moves)
Kee Berry - If held by a Pokémon, this Berry will increase the Pokémon's Defense stat when hit by a physical attack.
Luminous Moss - An item to be held by a Pokémon. It boosts Sp. Def if hit with a Water-type attack. It can only be used once.
Maranga Berry - If held by a Pokémon, this Berry will increase the Pokémon's Sp. Defense stat when hit by a special attack.
Pixie Plate - An item to be held by a Pokémon. It is a stone tablet that boosts the power of Fairy-type moves.
Roseli Berry - If held by a Pokémon, this Berry will lessen the damage taken from one supereffective Fairy-type attack.
Safety Goggles - An item to be held by a Pokémon. These goggles protect the holder from both weather-related damage and powder.
Snowball - An item to be held by a Pokémon. It boosts Attack if hit with an Ice-type attack. It can only be used once.
Weakness Policy - An item to be held by a Pokémon. Attack and Sp. Atk sharply increase if the holder is hit with a move it's weak to.

 

Has some of them, but not all. Thanks

 

would it be possible/worth it to incorporate sky battles and inverse battles?

Also! this was probably mentioned, but the new TMs are Infestation, Nature Power, Confide, and Dazzling Gleam!

edit: saw a post by smores that had some ability changes. I think he missed that Overcoat protects from powder and spore moves.

speaking of which let's not forget the new immunities electric, grass, and ghost get!
oh, and steel losing resistance to ghost and dark

 

Inverse should be a thing. Sky battles would make flying gyms even better, so there's that. Still a cool battle type though.

 

Sky battles in Flying Gyms would be horrible. There'd be no Starmies, no Rhyperiors, no Abomasnows, no Metagross, etc etc etc... They're already good enough >_>

 

couldn't there just be a restriction on that though? i mean, you should be free to challenge a gym regardless of if you even have a flyer/levitater anyway. I just think it wouldn't be a bad idea to make them into a selectable battle style like Triple or Double etc.

also with that comes a question...would doubles/rotation/triples etc be allowed in conjunction with sky battles? (assuming they were even implemented into URPG) There aren't any instances of that in-game, but i dont see why it shouldn't be possible.

 

I'm not against the introduction of Sky Battles, I was just against them as a possibility for use in Gyms. Something that is that selective should be banned in competitive use. *cough*GSC*cough*

 

Sky Battles and Inverse Battles will be made available as a clause in the same way GBA Clause can be used to limit you to only four moves.

I doubt I'll allow them to be used in gyms.

@ChainReaction01; What exactly is wrong with GSC?

 

ok then we should probably start a list of what can/can't be used in a sky battle, in terms of pokemon, moves, and held items.

pretty sure iron ball would be banned under...uhh...sky clause? as well as gravity, smack down, and ground type moves in general (except Mud Sport/Sand Attack?) Actually, i'm not sure if ground attacks would be unusable or just fail. same goes for things that would negate/change levitate like gastro acid, role play or skill swap, and stuff that causes levitation like magnet rise and telepathy.

now for pokemon, would the URPG list be the same as in game or would there be exceptions that we would allow that aren't allowed in game like Delibird, Shedinja, or Volbeat?

 

Nothing really, that was more of a cheap joke. I just don't like how their whole shtick is no Abilities and yet Slaking's and Archeops' abilities are still in use there. Yes, I know it's for balance reasons, it's still stupid. It should be either no Abilities at all or no new Pokemon or something along those lines.

 

Somewhat related to the Sky Battles thing--would a charizard work if it mega-evolved into Mega Charizard X, which is neither levitates nor is a flying-type? (I think this would be the only exception, as gengar cannot participate in Sky Battles and aerodactyl retains the flying-type)

 

Gengar has Levitate so it should be able to? Or is it only Flying types?

Anyway I've confirmed in game that Charizard can become Mega Charizard X during a Sky-Battle.

 

I think she was referring to the fact that Mega Gengar gets Shadow Tag. Gengar itself is allowed in sky battles. But it's just a theory.

However, since Mega Charizard X is allowed because it can fly, even if not a flying type. I think Gengar would be allowed even after it Mega Evolves since it started that way in battle.

Oh. And to help out. Fire Pledge does not work in sky battles. Tested it personally.