Pokemon XY Discussion, Research, Suggestion & Preparation

Louden made a good point but used a bad example. A better one would be something like Magnezone which would normally need to be evolved via training in a specific area, but in the URPG is just normal evolution.

For things that are just too incompatible with the URPG, normal evolution is used. Probably will be the case with Inkay

On the other things:
Sylveon will be another rock that is exclusive to it, just like all the other eeveelutions.
I don't really think that Pancham / Sligoo's evo conditions are too much to ask of people (especially Sligoo's since you can set auto rain with battle rules), but that's just my opinion.

 

Maybe for Pangoro you just need to have a dark type in your stats. To be honest, that method is more like the in-game method, and iirc there are Dark Pokemon in the mart like Poochyena, so it shouldn't be that bad.

 

To go back to Sylveon for a second....

To evolve Eevee it needs a fairy move in it's move set as well as high friendship iirc. In this case, wouldn't another Soothe Bell be needed since it learns Fairy type attacks through leveling anyways?

 

Yeah, there's honestly no reason why an item should be used for Pancham. Eevee, Poochyena, Skorupi, Larvitar, Purrloin, and Deino are all marts which are or evolve into Dark types, and a starting rain battle for Sliggoo is essentially the same as in-game.

The only one that really warrants change is Inkay. That is most likely gonna be just a regular evolution, but could we switch it up and a bit and have it evolve if its evolution battle is an inverse battle or something like that? It kinda fits with the scheme of Inkay/Malamar and isn't that hard to really if the inverse battles are implemented.

 

Sorry, this is entirely unrelated, but who was sitting around with their shiny new X/Y and was like "hmmm this inkay is supposed to evolve into a malamar but it hasn't, oh, I know, let's turn my DS upside-down?"

On another note, I'm all for having inkay as a normal evolution/no item required (similar to magneton to magnezone). (Although this does warrant the question--why is magneton to magnezone item-less, while eevee to leafeon/glaceon is mosst stone/ice stone, respectively?)

 

that is a good point. Since all 3 evolve with location no item should be needed for Eevee to evolve. With that being said....wouldn't it also change friendship evolution since no items were involve in the games? You can actually change it to where X amount of battles has to be won before evolving or something.... But that right there is just a thought.

 

A lot of the baby pokemon would be ridiculously difficult to evolve, though. Pichu, igglybuff, togepi, and cleffa come to mind. and by that I mean pichu

 

Time for some practical answers to things that never should have been problems in the first place:

Sylveon: Item will probably be a Pokepuff, as those are Amie-related items, as is its evolution.
Leafeon/Glaceon: I know they're location based, but if they didn't need items they'd be unbalanced to the other Eeveelutions.
Magnezone: We could always make that an item. Gotta buy a Charge Stone to evolve Magneton/Nosepass. Or just forget it and leave it how it is.

Pancham: Must have another Dark type in stats is almost fine, but suggesting "You can just buy one from the Pokemart" isn't a good solution. Most evolution items are roughly $2,000 and all those Pokemon are all way more than that. That becomes a very expensive evolution for some people, free for others.

Inkay: Inkay is stupid. Like, really stupid. Having to turn something upside down is stupid.
If people REALLY want it to have a special evolution condition, I'd suggest that Topsy Turvy has to be used in its 7th battle, or do an Inverse battle as was suggested.

For Generation VI, I intend to have a list of approved wildcards that can be used in gyms. And only those. If you think something belongs on a universally approved list of wildcards, you can make a suggestion.

And I'll probably reject it.

 

I support seventh battle inverse or Inkay.

Magneton/Nosepass should evolve when a coronet's rock is used (like in pmd)

Dark type pokemon in stats is still reasonable for Pancham. People will gladly let you borrow one of theirs if you're new/lacking dark types.

Only gen vi wcs that come to mind are dragalge and goodra for water (evolving from a water and level up pool for former, evolving during rain, hydration, level up pool for latter) and florges for grass. Togekiss/Clefable/Granbull now a normal wc. Gyarados for Dark I guess. Maybe the pokemon that seem fairy and were rumoured to be fairy, but aren't could be fairy wcs. Ones that come to mind are milotic, mismagius and raichu.

I really think that people should be allowed have two gyms though, provided they're different type and region.

Still a strong supporter of inverse in gyms!

 

This please, since it's dumb that the hardest part of getting a full set of badges is finding gym leaders and not winning the battles. It's become nearly impossible to get an entire region. Also having one good leader with two good gyms is better than one inexperienced/inactive leader right???

I would even be in favor of just cutting the number of gyms. I don't think anyone can really justify having 50 gyms (w/o OI) besides that it's the way the games work. I'm not exactly sure how this would be done, but with some brainstorming I'm sure we could come up with something.

 

EDIT: Figured I should post how the list looks so far

• Bug: Kabutops
• Dark: N/A
• Dragon: Charizard, Gyarados
• Electric: PorygonZ, Probopass
• Fairy:
• Fighting: Electivire
• Fire: (none)
• Flying: (none)
• Ghost:
• Grass: Florges?
• Ground: Tyranitar
• Ice:
• Normal: Togekiss, Clefable, Granbull
• Poison: Gliscor
• Psychic:
• Rock:
• Steel:
• Water: (none)

 

I realise this is probably going to be a suggestion thats shot down instantly

our own urpg league with its own badges and 1 gym for each type

 

It's been suggested before. I like the concept. But that's only 18 leaders. We currently 42 gyms and the OI league, that's 47.

In order to have 18 gyms, we have to kick out 29 leaders (assuming they're full, I know they aren't). Let's even just say 20 leaders to allow for empty gyms.

Who get's the gyms? I'd probably get to keep Fire (no offense Besty ) but there would be huge argument/competition over Flying and Water gyms.

 

Ok so towel suggest 2 or 3 of each type in aim chat thinking about this 3 only increases that number by a little bit and would force some gym leaders out but provide options for switching im sure some might move to a dark or fairy type gym willingly vacating popular water/flying types for this - the league would require you to earn say 50% of the badges or something along those lines maintaining a single badge per type i dunno

 

Maybe even for Pancham it can be as simple as a Dark Type has to be involved in the battle? Just make the 7th battle a 2v2 against someone who uses a Dark Type.

 

I'm all for having our own league here. Since I started, many of the vets I was associated with always boasted about how the URPG was different (and in some ways better) than the game. Yes, cutting the gyms down would force others out of theirs. For gyms that are basically multiples (i.e water, flying, fire, electric, ect) allow the officials to choose who would take on the URPG League gym from the gyms are the occupied. Mobrey stated that he would probably be the one to keep fire, therefore stating that he has the track record to prove that he should keep it. It all comes down to records at this point, which is a fair way of determining who should remain the gym leader of their respective type.

There are a lot of open gyms at this point and some of the gyms have leaders rarely on or never on. lowering the number of gyms will allow for more gym challenges and possibly more Elite Four challenges.

But this is only the opinion of a lowly minion.

 

For Pancham, you could trade and trade back a dark type if it has 7 battles, just like Machamp etc.

As for gyms, that would be kind of better, as instead of having to try and track down a ton of people, you could just have one badge of each type. Possibly if this would be done, you could have a proper gym league tournament of flying vs flying, electric vs electric (and even round robin if more than two gyms of a type exist). Those with the most wins keep the gym. IIrc that would go with the already established method for challenging an active leader for the gym position. Also, those who already have badges, would they just be allowed to keep them/one of watever type they already have?

 

I have an idea for the URPG gym league (to complicate matters further) that's probably horrible but I'll toss it out anyways. Current gym system stands, 8 badges in one region or 16 total (feel free to change the number) allows participation in the URPG gym league, which holds one gym for each type. Beating 8 of these (or appropriate number) allows the standard E4/champion challenge that completing a region currently has. Perhaps have it so that someone could hold both a URPG League gym and another gym, if you think that would be a problem.

 

The urpg's own gym league is a fantastic suggestion imo. I'd really be for moving from the current system to a system of 36 Gyms, two of each type. At least one badge of each type being the new e4 requirement would be reasonable. Something that should be done if this actually does happen, is not assure anyone any gyms. Anyone with a current gym must still re-apply, same with anyone without a gym that is interested, for a type. The best two apps get that particular type, having independent gyms.

Pros:

-Newer/less experienced members finally have an opportunity to apply for gyms
-Less type imbalance. There would be the exact same amount of each gym type
-People who desperately want dark, now have a chance for it unless trolly mods
-Inactives that have scraped by up to now, must actively re-apply so not necessarily a "wasted gym slot" anymore
-People will now have a new reason to actively battle gyms and attain badges
-Each gym type becomes more unique now
-Having to attain one badge of each type makes getting to e4 level still difficult, but also manageable as if one leader of a type is particularly challenging, there is always the other leader
-URPG differentiates itself from the games and stands out more in this regard

Cons:

-What about people who already have a lot of badges? Do they have to re-collect them all or is a special allowance made for them?

Obviously none of this is necessarily gonna happen, just my 2c

 

I'm super in favor of this idea and everything that you said!!! I really like the idea of a flushing of the dated gym system since it seems like an idea that made sense when URPG was formed, but now has expired itself.

@Monbrey said that the staff has discussed this before, though. I'd like to hear what the consensus of that discussion was, if possible.