Pokemon XY Discussion, Research, Suggestion & Preparation

Thanks guys I've added those into the Desktop Calc (cause its way easier than the online one) for a new beta version.

URPG Desktop Calculator

It's available there, but due to changes like Steel no longer resisting Dark/Ghost, should not be used for current-mechanics URPG battles.

EDIT: There's a beta web calc too: http://monbrey.com.au/urpgcalcs/battle-beta.htm

Type chart hasn't been touched, so it probably wont know what to do with Fairy types.

 

Ya I'm aware of that, so is there really a point in someone going through and doing this with the nonexact stats that exist? Like they're going to have to go through and redo them for when they get the real stats right? Luckily! Serebii seems to have collected the real stats (or they seem pretty confident) so check out their X/Y Dex !!

Vivillon - #666 - Serebii.net Pokédex

 

Uh, Serebii has a reputation for posting the first things they believe to be true as facts. Those seem to be Smogon's initial presumed base stats of everything (hence so rounded), and not the actual 100% confirmed ones. Smogon only have a few Pokemon known for a fact, and they're far more reliable. Aegislash's 60 base stats for instance appear to be lower than that actually.

E: Actually, Serebii might be better than I thought! The stats I've checked have matched up, so yeah go serebii!

 

@Elamite; and @Synthesis;

BT used the stats from Serebii in the calculations, so thanks, but we should be good for now.

 

-Auroros isn't Ice/Dragon
-Need to edit retconned types
-Flabébé's name
-Are those stats all 100% confirmed? I notice some small differences like Greninja's 339 speed to 343 now, but there are also some big ones like Dedenne's speed from 259 to 301, Hawlucha's speed from 319 to 335 and Klefki's Sdef from 259 to 273
-Stats undefined from Tangrowth onwards

 

Have also added Fairy to the typechart of the web calc. Fairy attacks and attacks on Fairy types should have the correct weaknesses and resistances.

No pre-gen VI Pokemon are Fairy type yet.

 

Update to the above:

If somebody wants to provide me a list of all known Pokemon that get Fairy type added, and all known Pokemon with base stat changes, I can update the beta with those.

EDIT: Disregard second part, I saw the list Elamite posted earlier.

 

From smogon (at the end of the OP) ^_^

 

Sylveon's how-to-get on the wiki at the time of this post is... well, shamefully inaccurate. (-: Also, locking down wiki discussion pages? I shudder to think of what happened in the past to necessitate that!

Anyhoo, "Maximum Bond" doesn't mean anything in regards to Pokémon-Amie. There are three meters that can fill up: Affection, Fullness (in regards to hunger) and Enjoyment. Affection does matter when evolving Eevee into Sylveon, but it doesn't have to be maxed out.

It's also not the only requirement.

I've scrounged around to find more information on Sylveon, and what I've found and tested to be the case myself is that it requires two things:

• Eevee must have at least 2 hearts' worth of Affection in Pokémon-Amie.
• Eevee mus know at least 1 Fairy-type move.

As far as I can tell, it's impossible to deplete Affection, although Fullness and Enjoyment go up and down. Having all three full and leveling up Eevee is not enough to get a Sylveon. Furthermore, having them more or less empty save for the 2 Affection IS sufficient for Sylveon, since that's how mine was when I got it.

Eevee learns Baby-Doll Eyes at level 9, which is a Fairy-type move. I had a case where I nearly evolved one into a Sylveon that I wanted to be an Umbreon, but canceled the evolution at the last instant when I realized what was going on. I replaced Baby-Doll Eyes with a TM move, then the next level the Eevee didn't try to evolve.

 

Error in calc:

Dragalge is Dragon/Poison not Poison/Water

 

Updated all of these in both calcs bar Arceus who doesn't have forms in the calc.

Fixed this.

 

Figured I'd post this here: A list of all the URPG Base Stats of the Gen VI Pokemon, to give you some idea of how stuff will compare and help you decide what you want Thanks to BlueTowel for this.

Base Stats

You can pretty much ignore the one and two-letter codes, they're type codes that the calc reads. The rest is the stats.

Next I need to work on new Abilities, Moves, and any changes to the old ones.
Thankfully Dual-typed moves were largely a massive false alarm.

We're also going to need to know what Pokemon can learn what moves. We're basically waiting on Bulbapedia/Smogon/Serebii for this sort of thing, but it's not too difficult to do our own research for that.

 

The calc says Mega Houndoom is part dragon when afaik it's still dark/fire.

 

When is the XY guide out? That probably has movepools and stuff in it, but I haven't bought one of those in like ten years lol

 

Honedge:

Spoiler

Level-up:
Pursuit
Autotomize
Aerial Ace
Retaliate
Slash
Iron Defense
Night Slash


TM/HMs:
TM05 Roar
TM06 Toxic
TM10 Hidden Power
TM17 Protect
TM18 Rain Dance
TM21 Frustration
TM27 Return
TM31 Brick Break
TM32 Double Team
TM33 Reflect
TM40 Aerial Ace
TM42 Facade
TM44 Rest
TM45 Attract
TM54 False Swipe
TM65 Shadow Claw
TM66 Payback
TM74 Gyro Ball
TM75 Swords Dance
TM80 Rock Slide
TM87 Swagger
TM88 Sleep Talk
TM90 Substitute
TM91 Flash Cannon
TM96 Nature Power
TM100 Confide
HM01 Cut

I'll post/edit when I could find and gather more moves they learn.

 

Must have mistyped the type code, will fix.

Guy tried to sell me one with the game. I declined.

Awesome, thanks I know it also gets Iron Head, Kings Shield and Swords Dance, but I don't know if that applies to Honedge or Doublade or both.

 

Smogon have more or less the full level up and TM movepool of everything released so far, and updated ones of most old Pokemon. It's easier and more accurate to look at their research than compile ourselves.

http://www.smogon.com/forums/forums/research.251/

 

Every time I check those threads the movepools are patchy at best. It does have good descriptions for the new moves and stuff though.

They're pretty good for fully-evolved Pokemon, but have next to no information on what moves the unevolved forms do and don't learn if they were to skip evolving. URPG needs this info too.

 

Are you referring to level-up or TM? I looked up Doublade (2nd evo) and it learns (level-up) these:

Honedge
Tackle
Swords Dance
Fury Cutter
Metal Sound
Pursuit
Autotomize
Shadow Sneak
Aerial Ace
Retaliate
Slash
Iron Defense
Night Slash
Power Trick
Iron Head
Sacred Sword

Max Stats (neutral nature):
294 / 259 / 299 / 169 / 173 / 155




Doublade
Tackle
Swords Dance
Fury Cutter
Metal Sound
Pursuit
Autotomize
Shadow Sneak
Aerial Ace
Retaliate
Slash
Iron Defense
Night Slash
Power Trick
Iron Head
Sacred Sword

Max Stats (neutral nature):
322 / 319 / 399 / 189 / 197 / 169






Aegislash
Fury Cutter
Pursuit
Autotomize
Shadow Sneak
Slash
Iron Defense
Night Slash
Power Trick
Iron Head
Head Smash
Swords Dance
Aerial Ace
King's Shield
Sacred Sword


Shield Form Max Stats (neutral nature):
324 / 199 / 399 / 199 / 399 / 219


Blade Form Max Stats (neutral nature):
324 / 438 / 218 / 438 / 218 / 240



I got these from Serebii. I will see if I could double or even triple check their credibility with this by checking Smogon and Bulbapedia.

 

@Monbrey ;

I wouldn't describe them as patchy at best. They have several people raise Pokemon from level one right until they stop learning moves to check and re-check every mon. They also do the exact same thing for all stages. It couldn't really be more thorough. Egg moves are the only thing that may not all be on Smogon.

Smogon campaign non stop for Pokemon equality, and you should too!

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