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URPG Milotic Evolution

Discussion in 'Trainer's Court' started by Feng, Jun 25, 2010.

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  1. Lord Fedora

    Lord Fedora Master of Hats and Ponies

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    I'm simply stating an easily applicable argument, which is that yes, people may not want it because it's too much trouble/money, which is a perfectly valid argument, if weak. I don't actually care personally, make the change if you wish, I just don't see the point other than making it more "authentic" (and if we're doing that then we might as well make Feebas ungodly difficult to obtain in the first place) or adding unnecessary cost/difficulty.
     
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    Because nobody has suggested it, duh. :look:

    A slight change for authenticity seems fine to me. Feebas is already a demanding mon anyway.
     
  3. Fierce Deity

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    So why make it more demanding with all this extra stuff :I
     
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    Because Milotic is merciless. :smokin: And if you follow mine and Wrave's short little conversation, it's not "all this extra stuff".
     
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  5. Haze

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    Your loss then

    I agree with Pidge, this is just people wanting to do the least amount possible rather than what's actually required.
     
  6. Neonsands

    Neonsands Iron From Ice

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    Well if we are going to be changing this to match the game, why not fix the rest? Burmy must battle in a specific terrain to evolve into the kind you want. Something must be done to make it that Tyrogue has a way to decide its evolution. Same with Wurmple's evolution. Magnezone and Probopass must RP on Mt. Coronet to evolve. Leafeon and Glaceon must RP in Ilex Forest and Route 217. For your Mantyke to evolve, you must have a Remoraid in your stats. And finally Feebas evolves into Milotic with max Beauty.

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  7. Feng

    Feng The Antithesis of Fun

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    Nobody's brought this up because some people just think "OH WELL SOOTHE BELL IS MAKING THIS SOO MUCH EASIER", and why do you think I'd be bringing it up now?

    I'm not saying we are making everything like the game as we don't have everything to utilize, like enviroment. BUT unlike that, we do have attributes in URPG. We can already do this, this change would add no new systems to set in place for Milotic as we ALREADY DO have one. You're going on a huge scale, on much of this, and slowly starting to get out of topic.

    Btw, many of you say how getting a Feebas is challenging in URPG already (just like in the game), and you think that maxing the Beauty attribute is a challenge too! (Which was just similar to the games themselves)
    You're just counter-arguing with a reason; lets keep this lax'd, keep everything simpler. So you're just providing that Pokemon Evolution shouldn't have a challenge in URPG? That is called being lazeh. :3
     
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  8. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

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    For Burmy, it is possible, but no one pays any attention to it because no one even uses it. Still, it is possible. No @ Tyrogue obviously, and Wurmple evolves into Cascoon/Silcoon randomly. :|

    Forcing someone to RP just to evolve isn't the way to go either. Yes, this is different from feeding Pokeblocks to Milotic. To feed, you simply buy berries and blend them into Pokeblock. To RP however, you have to enter an entire RP just for the sake of evolving. Heck, I think we will have tonnes of RP with people entering and quitting. So there isn't really a point at all.

    Mantyke would be kinda cool actually. Anyway, I agree with the entire feeding Feebas Pokeblocks to evolve stuff. In the first place, if you're capable of getting a Milotic, you should already be either a Referee/Ranger/Grader/rich person, which means you should have the money to evolve. Either way, this is something for Harry to decide.
     
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    Neonsands Iron From Ice

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    Yeah I was basically kidding about the Tyrogue and Wurmple thing. But if we are going to say that people don't want to put in the extra work for a Milotic, and yet we won't put in the hard work to RP or just simple changing the terrain for one match aren't we just being ignorant? If one is possible and we are going to change it, let's fix the others that are possible. I don't see why one mon should get special treatment over others. Feebas is hard enough to get, but these others seem to be just simple to obtain. Why not ramp the difficulty up for them all? And maybe from this, not only will Contests get popular but RPing can gain some merit as well.
     
  10. Zombie Muse

    Zombie Muse I'm Zombilicious

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    It's only getting special treatment because it's actual evolution is a possibility now. And I think I'm reiterating when I say if we change anything at all we're definetly not fixing anything, only making it more like the game which this entire place is based off of.

    If they just say what berries we need, the cost, and how to do it in the ultra dex (like where they say how to evolves; 7 battles + crap) then I think it should be fine, and other special evolutions shouldn't get changed, because most of those (like burmy, wurple, and mantyke) are kind of ridiculous, but this... isn't as much by far.
     
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    The actual evolution is more than possible for ons to evolve in different locations. We do have an RP board after all. We wouldn't have to change anything. I agree, Tyrogue and Wurmple would require implementing new systems which aren't needed at the moment. Other options are already available and could be done just like Milotic. And how is battling in a particular terrain ridiculous? Or owning a Remoraid? Those are merely options that are readily available just like contests. It would help the URPG become more like the game, even more so than just adding in contest stats for Milotic. It could also help when Gen V comes out and those evolution requirements are implemented for newer mons. You guys claim that people defending against change don't want to do the extra work, but you yourselves seem to be unwilling to engage in a little extra for other mons.
     
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    I'm okay with other special evolutions.
     
  13. Feng

    Feng The Antithesis of Fun

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    Me too. But first of all,

    I'd like it if Remoraid were in a party before Mantyke evolved

    and many of your other points...

    But, this thread is only directed towards Milotic. If you wanted to discuss about several bunches of different topics, you can make your own thread.

    I've just been trying to say that you're getting off topic. Not saying that your own ideas are illegitimate.
     
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  14. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

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    You missed my point. I said that if we were to force people to RP to evolve those said mons, I believe we would have people joining and quitting just to evolve their mons, which isn't what we want at all.
     
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    I can respect that, but couldn't the same be said about contests with Milotic. If people just join to get Feebas to evolve then stop doing contests, what is the difference from someone RPing till they get the mon they want?

    I see these as being the same discussion. I am also just using these examples to show that just focusing on one mon would be wrong. That would be showing prejudice against certain mons, and I hope no one wants to go down that alley =P
     
  16. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

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    Because you do the feeding within 1 second, and you can't RP within 1 second.
     
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    But contests take longer than that and you have to earn credits to buy the berries. Ultimately just having an RP for people to evolve mons would be like an easier story. Which could work well because it would help merge battles and stories in an interesting way. It could merely be a simple approval process. Just fun little stories so people can connect more with their pokemon.
     
  18. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

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    You can just buy the Pokeblocks. You don't have to enter the contests to evolve.
     
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    Sorry Ataro and others that agree with him, but I have to side in favor of having Feebas evolve via max beauty.

    I love this site. I love how it has taken Pokemon and made it a believable RP experience. URPG has been around for years, and that is because it has evolved, in its own right, as the years have gone by. An example is that we have closed the NP because of the Porygon incident *why is it always Porygon getting Pokemon in trouble?*.

    I think that really thinking about how to get some mon and how to evolve others is the next step that is needed. I know that this could help the contest a little, though I don't seeing everyone getting a Feebas now and running to sign up anywhere in the near future. I think that making someone by a "Pokeball" or something of the sorts when evolving their Nincada to get a Shednja is a good idea. If someone wants a Mantine, they'll have to have a Remoraid first.

    I understand that the Mons that have these special evolutions as not all that popular and that it can seems stupid to change the system for just a few exceptions, but I really think that by willing to change a little, a lot more can be taken away in the end.
     
  20. Zombie Muse

    Zombie Muse I'm Zombilicious

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    Yea, it's that simple. Okay, so for now on whenever someone gets a Magneton, or a Nosepass (I think BB just got one) and they have to start an RP on whatever mountain to evolve it- OH WAIT. You can't the RP section is closed, poor BB has to wait until it gets fixed and then wait again until the RP gets done. They'd have to make a rule about evolving pokemon so they don't have people start and RP, bring out their pokemon then quit. They'd have to get in a battle, or finish the rp, or something like that and that can take forever. I started my RP months ago and finsihed only one battle. I think it's too much of a time consumer to RP for evolution and the way it is now for those Pokemon is just fine.
     
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