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Tournament Ideas

Discussion in 'Trainer's Court' started by WebMaster, Mar 29, 2012.

  1. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    @Monbrey ; I meant after a tournament ends, there'd be a two week or so delay and then sign ups for another tournament would start. That does leave around a month between one tourney's finals and the round one of the next.

    I don't think I was rejected for any tourney, but I have forfeited several because I knew I'd be inactive. Not really the same thing.

    With limiting who can enter I don't mean only the very active allowed partake, just prevention of people who sign up for a lot of tourneys and never actually take part coughSTcough

    Entrance fee is a cool idea though.
     
  2. We Taste Pies...

    We Taste Pies... pikachu in a highchair

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    Just my two cents on the entry fee: I much prefer the deposit idea. I think we only need the one incentive to encourage participation.
     
  3. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    Your two cents has been

    *sunglasses*

    Deposited.
     
  4. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    For the Gen VI Battle Factory/tournament, how will the lack of new Pokemon work out? I counted 32 Fully evolved and Single stage Pokemon. A few problems arise:

    -Not really enough Pokemon for each tier. In fact, some tiers seem like they'd have only two Pokemon, which is kinda problematic if every team must have a tier one Pokemon For example, the only obvious tier ones to me are Aegislash and Goodra. Aegislash obviously has the advantage, and taking up the "best" Pokemon per team slot, means that people who get rolled Goodra are at quite a disadvantage. The best way to combat this would be to only have say three tiers or something.

    -Huge amount of Fairy types, meaning it's quite likely each team will have at least one. In fact, everyone's almost guaranteed one as their lowest tier it seems (Dedenne, Carbink, Slurpuff, Aromatisse, Klefki are all candidates). This means Pokemon like Pangoro, Dragalge, Tyrantrum, Goodra and such become a lot less viable.

    -Not much variation. With just over 30 possible options and each team having 6(?), a lot of the same Pokemon will be seen repeatedly, unlike the other Battle Factory tournaments.

    Still, despite some unfavourable odds, the last BF proved that skill outweighs luck. If we aren't doing BF, I think these still apply to most Gen VI only tournaments, provided we're having one!
     
  5. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    A "Gen VI" tournament doesn't necessarily have to be Gen VI exclusive. It's just a good option to have some sort of rental-based tournament, like the Battle Factory, for a new generation's release as this allows people to try out all the best Pokemon from the new gen, with moves, and get some idea of what they want to work towards earning in URPG.

    tl;dr Tournament needs to include Gen VI, not be only Gen VI
     
  6. Elamite

    Elamite Active Member

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    Would it be alright if someone went through and started organizing the tiers now in that case? This way the tournament would be able to start when X/Y is available for UPRG (instead of the inevitable delay). We have the tier list from the last tournament, but even that needs some updating (for example Mamoswine is tier 3).
     
  7. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    If someone wants to make a tier list we can review and finalize that would be great.

    Aegislash Tier 1.

    Also super obvious thing here, no tournaments until the calc is Gen VI ready. Get to work on those URPG BST's :p
     
  8. Elamite

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    I did a run through of what I think the tiers should be. I opened up the second tier a lot more because I think it's the most subjective.

    I also included my speculation of gen6 Pokemon. These are obviously subject to huge change. Also I included the original tiers for comparison.
     

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  9. Thnksfrthegg

    Thnksfrthegg Suicidal Togepi

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    Okay, I know that I'm new but I've been thinking about an idea that might work if implemented well:

    I follow tennis quite avidly, and the way that the professional sport is played is that there are give or take weekly tournaments involving 32-odd players that are of varying importance, awarding fewer amount of points. The more points you have the higher up the rankings table you are. e.g you might have a pair of tournaments one week that offers 250 for winning it followed by one the next week that offers 500 to the victor, and then maybe a Grand Slam, which offers 2000 points.

    Having read the feed it seems that most people feel that tournaments like this are impossible, so this is what I would propose:

    Every week a new tournament would open, consisting of between 8 and 32-man draws depending on the size. The smaller tournaments would only be open to more junior trainers and the larger ones would be open to all. An 8-man tourney consists of 7 matches, so even if you were able to only do one match per week it would be over quickly. The larger tournaments could have say a two-week deadline and the equivalent of Grand Slams could go on for an odd month. So, you could have a calendar like this, for instance:

    First Week of the Month: Small 8 Man Tourney while a 16-man went on at the same time
    Second Week: 2nd 8 man, 16 man still ongoing
    Third Week: Large 32/64 man tourney
    Fourth Week: Tourney still ongoing, hopefully finished by the end of the month.

    These tournaments would offer money and points per battle won as such, and to create a URPG ranking ladder would both encourage new people to come and also encourage activity, as your ranking would slip if you didn't regularly do tournaments.
     
  10. Monbrey

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    There's no way to run a whole tournament within a week, simply because of scheduling issues. There's too many different timezones.
     
  11. Thnksfrthegg

    Thnksfrthegg Suicidal Togepi

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    Well I suppose that if you organised it so that people on similar timezones battled in the first rounds which could take maybe two days then you've just got three or four matches over the rest of the week.
     
  12. Synthesis

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    Speaking of, is there any word on the basics tourney?
     
  13. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    Will run the next tourney around the start of June, once everyone is done with exams etc. Will mostly likely be a basics/devolution tournament.
     
  14. Mistral

    Mistral i'm wide awake

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    PWN could run a whole tournament in a week. /shot
     
  15. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    Well yeah, because Round 1 would also be the Grand Final and you'd get a bye.
     
  16. Neonsands

    Neonsands Iron From Ice

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    I'm just putting it out there (like I always do), if you need someone to run a gba tourney, i'm down =D
     
  17. Thnksfrthegg

    Thnksfrthegg Suicidal Togepi

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    Not sure whether this should go in here but it is tourney-related, so here goes:

    So, on one of my favourite YouTube channels there's this thing called Pixelmon Island, where trainers have thirty 30min episodes to create a party to battle with in a tournament in something actually quite similar to the Park in URPG. The summer holidays seems like the prime time to do an event like this in the Park, where you have, say, a month to create a party, do quests and gather EMs for the tournament. Given the current talk of how URPG is a bit too much about battling this seems like a good way to balance things out.
     
  18. Maxie the Weavile

    Maxie the Weavile Weavile Leader

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    I like that idea
     
  19. Lovecraft

    Lovecraft Cthulhu saves the world

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    The problem with that, is that rangers and people aren't really active enough for that kinda of thing. At least from what I gathered, park staff might have a different view though.
     
  20. Thnksfrthegg

    Thnksfrthegg Suicidal Togepi

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    Maybe if you reduced the CC required to catch the Pokémon on the run it might make it faster, also you could still have only a couple of rangers on for the whole of it, on top of which activity seems to be boosted this time of year. Also, there'd b a few groups hopefully too, meaning that there'd always be activity in the group, even if not everyone were posting all the time. On top of this you wouldn't have to have 6v6, so if not many captures were made you could just go with 4v4 or something.