Administration problems in the URPG

oh DoH I was actually agreeing that what happened in the Park affair was correct. If you read my posts at all you would've picked up that I was suggesting this was the correct methodology for going about punishments in the URPG.

Like the example I've already said, a gym battle can last 3 to 4 hours, an example would be TO and my own battle for the tourney, more or less a gym battle. However the ref got like 2k? For an ffa it usually takes around 3 hours and even less in the countless ffas in which refs limit the amount of moves participants can use. These can pay up to 8k. How is it fair that ST came in and reffed so many ffas with, honestly, very little effort. And he reffed so many that he actually made a profit. If the mods are extremely against applying punishments with crimes, why not at least actually have punishments rather than just the casual reverts that don't teach the offender any lesson at all.

By the way if you touched on any of this in your posts, I stopped reading as soon as you whined about me "bitching" about the park thing. At that point I decided your posts were nothing but incoherent babble ^^

 

you seem to be missing the one big point here: i said i would give a list of people who i hate and why i hate them. i never said it would be backed up with evidence... im allowed to like and dislike how i please. sorry, but you ain't god.

im a person who if you get on my bad side once, expect to remain there. simple as that.

 

Only valid point I can draw from TEDs info:

Officials that are dead or have actually declared quitting/leaving URPG should be replaced. Why bother leaving them one the list ._.

 

Oh yea, I've always wondered why official was an honorary term for ex-mods/those who were close to being mods.

 

My theory is that it is actually a graveyard.

 

Yeah to be honest I've wondered why they're still listed as officials when they don't do anything anymore.

And as for TED's list I don't really know how to reply except that I agree with some of those (including the one about myself at times). And I'm glad you posted the list.

 

hehehe im so loved :birthday:

 

You need help if this is how you are in real life and hold grudges like this.

Also, if it was the other way around, and I used an illegal move, and we redid the turn, and I still won, I'm pretty sure you would make the thread for moves having to fail.

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MARSHY WTF I CAN'T QUOTE QUOTES IN QUOTES. In regards to

"if you try to _______ and we catch you, you will lose your profit, the money you put in, and a penalty of ____.

abuse the rules; 10-100k and/or ban (basically, anything)

What do you want us to specifically put under the first blank?

"So do it, dock his ref wages until he makes back the money he gained, you could even extend that to the people in the ffas if you wanted."

I don't think other people would consider it abuse, though. Besides, it isn't as disproportional as the park scenario, especially since you got Pokemon instead of money, and he had to actually ref those FFAs.

Yes. I think you have to be reasonably active to understand what to do as an official.

 

im not. this is the internet so i dont really care about the people as much.

no, not really, cause then i wouldnt have gotten screwed over.

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my problem with pidge is only a small point in relation to this whole thread. stop magnifying it.

 

You obviously care enough to block them.

You would of got screwed over if your move was something like Counter, and I use a move I didn't have that allows Counter to work.

And yes, that's why the rest of my last post addressed other things, although this one doesn't. We can leave it at that in this thread. Anyone wanting to continue or follow this conversation can go to my VMs.

 

i used to block people cause i actually got mad. now when it comes to ffas, i put on the rage show and block for humor purposes but thats beside the point

a move like counter is nothing similar to what my move was.

and i wasnt talking to just you about our situation, i was talking to everyone because theyre being ignorant

 

This thread is about URPG's problems, not TEDs. =/

 

whats the difference?

 

Alaska I lol'ed.

And wow, do I take everything seriously? Heh, to me it seems I don't take things seriously enough. I mean really. When was the last time I took something too seriously? DON'T I ALWAYS BRING THE HUMOR? See it's over there next to the cake. As for making poor decisions, meh, I have my fair share of mistakes, same as anyone else. I are only hooman, you know. Anyways, I would hope no one URPG bans you just for your opinions, despite how silly some of them might be lol.

Marshy, I wasn't specifically targeting you when I said bitching about the Park, I mean people in general who still like to grumble about it being unfair and mean and what-have-you. Sorry if it seemed like I was calling you out or something. All the same, the fact that you ignored the rest of my post for something like that doesn't speak well for your case. Just because you don't like something someone might say in a post doesn't mean you should stop reading it because then you might miss relevant information. And I fail to see how my post was "incoherent babble" just because you took a comment the wrong way.

Inactive Mods/Officials keep their positions in URPG for the same reason Mods @ PE2K do, I'm assuming; if they come back and ever get active again they can be a helpful force for the staff. I don't think anyone should be demoted just because of lack of activity; after all, life happens. I DO think that new Mods/Officials should be promoted in a timely manner in response to any Mod/Official going inactive for long periods of time though.

 

I disagree with that so much. Inactive mods coming back means they're still in the time when they left, and want it to stay that way. And they should retain their positions just because of irl things? Scott hasn't been active in URPG in about three years, Meg/Fenix/DU/HiF don't URPG at all, Mike and Chris come and go. Why would you not replace them with people who actually understand the current situations?


Also you're not funny Alaska, just saying.

 

Er, Haze, my last sentence said just that, silly XD. I said that new Mods and Officials should be promoted as soon as possible when it becomes obvious a current staff member won't be very active for a while.

I don't think anyone should be DEMOTED if they go inactive, but I think they should be replaced. And if/when the time comes when they become active again, sure, they may have to catch up on new things, but in the end it means more active staff members to help things flow more smoothly.

Also, I had an idea, though I admit it's probably flawed. All the same, here it is:

So, TED touched on something earlier, about how members don't come forward about things. I think most of the time, members are worried about two things; one, their concerns or ideas will either be considered stupid or brushed aside with little thought, and two, that if they're reporting a problem with another member, they're worried about retaliation against them for reporting. When people don't report problems, it might not be obvious to staff that these problems exist in the first place. This, in turn, might make it seem as if we're lazy and not doing our job, when in truth we don't realize there's something that needs to be fixed.

A possible solution: A public account. Basically, everyone knows the password to it, and using this anonymous account, people could make posts or speak with staff and not worry about their identity being tied to that, unless they admitted it themselves. Since no one would know who was actually using the account at the time of a post/PM/VM/whatever, people could report problems and suggest ideas without fear of people knowing it's them.

Of course, there are problems with this. People could use the account to SPAM/flame/troll not just URPG, but the whole forum. On top of that, I'm not sure if the same account can be logged on from multiple locations; if one person is using the account and another needs/wants to, would they be able to, or would they have to wait for the person using it to log out? If the latter is true, then someone might, out of spite, log in the public account and stay logged in for long periods at a time to prevent others from using it.

I dunno, it's just a random suggestion, a way for people to feel more comfortable about getting more involved with the URPG and stuff. It might not exactly fix administration issues, but it might help address things faster and get them dealt with sooner.

 

I like the idea DOH, but it won't matter if several people log on as I've been logged in multiple locations at the same time before. I just don't like the idea of a public account because of all of the shit that could get potentily stirred.

For example, user X logs into account Y and can do whateve they want with a certain immunity from getting punished. Sure, initially there probably won't be any problems when just the URPG members know, but sooner or later other members will find out and maybe even those goddamn spambots .

As a side note users aren't supposed to have more than one account without permission from a moderator (say they asked to be permabanned, but changed their mind a few weeks later, so created an account to ask a mod to be unbanned). I doubt the mods will be too happy with this suggestion due to the whole spammyness.

 

I think a formspring would work better, we just have to make an account as Staff and then people can anonymously send in questions/suggestions. And also that way, we would be able to throw out the spam suggestions (eg. "Make Near leader of the URPG"). The only problem I could see with using this is that if we accidentally throw out a legit suggestion on purpose or not on purpose. But then I suppose whoever sent in that suggestion wouldn't see it answered and could just PM a mod/official about it.

 

How about whenever someone (Staff member-wise, I mean) sees a suggestion/comment/question, they can grab it from Formspring and post it in a Sticky in the Trainer's Court? That way people could see what's being asked and what the decisions about it are. And say someone does throw out a legit thing; well, I'd say the person keep posting it until someone finally posts it. Eventually there will be a Staff member who'll post it instead of throwing it out. Not nearly as open as the Mod boards would be, since discussion could still take place there before any Staff posted in the thread, but at least it'd be a way to make things public so they can be taken care of (and so it's at least obvious that the problem exists in the first place).

 

So it should be cool with my boss if I don't show up to work for a few months?