World Domination Discussion (Expansion Possibility)

All of the sections have two heads except for battling already. :b I think that having heads on different branches would get crazy; everyone would start arguing about everything and we'd get to be as inefficient as a REAL government. What you could do is give more power to the senior refs, senior judges, elite rangers, and councilors or whatever on their home forum. Though, tbh, I think the system we have will work fine on three forums without any huge changes. One thing I am worried about , however, is that I dunno how many people the URPG can support. The way everything is set up, it'd be hard to work with more than about 100 active members.

 

Maybe if these positions were limited from decision making to just general moderation, like that of a regular forum mod. That way there wouldn't really be disputes, because they wouldn't actually have any say in official matters, only in general moderation (reprimanding trolls, removing spam, approving mart/trades/etc). If they did a good job and people liked them though they could always get promoted like usual, if there was need.

But as far as a forum, I'm not personally familiar with PC or Pokebeach, but these do seem like they're probably the best choices (pokebeach particularly). For reasons previously stated smogon and serebii aren't good choices (and probably aren't options to begin with).

Again the issue with pe2k was that there wasn't a whole lot of activity to begin with, not BMG stealing their activity. Even still, stuff happens on pe2k, just not as much.
I don't see all of our members flocking over to a new forum, though some may take leadership positions and help integrate our community and game with the newer players. Myself for example would likely stay on BMG, only checking out the new forum to help out new players and maybe assist with the integration.

All in all I think this can only be good for the community, as we're highly unlikely to lose members as a result. We can only gain them, and if things don't go well we can just abandon it and stay here and at pe2k. Even in that situation we'd probably get new people from the third forum that would join us here.

tl;dr I like this idea.

 

Go for it, as others stated we shouldn't wait for things to die down. We have enough people that people can step up and help if we expand.​

 

PC seems best option after just a little investigation. Very nice amount of members, not to mention a steady amount seem to frequent the RP section (almost always between 5 and 20, depending on time of day), not to mention that the people seem well-rounded and the forum has a nice visual appeal. I'd strongly recommend this as first preference.

 

This. I'd love to be one of the people that come to PokeCommunity and ask about the URPG possibly expanding there. Naturally they might want to see what we're about, so we might need to tone everything down...

 

Toning down is an understatement, but yeah, I'd like to help there too.

 

*snickers* I volunteer. As bad of an idea as that sounds, I can actually be pretty professional when I calm the fuck down.

EDIT: I'm checking various forums to see what they're like. So far it's gone like this:

Pokecommunity: Seems to be aimed at a younger audience, pretty strict rules about what you can say on the forum, but people seem fairly friendly. I'm looking into their fan fiction/writing department and really like it. Don't know about the rest.

Pokebeach: They censor swearing too, but seem to have a mixed age range. The youngest mod is 12 and the oldest is 51 Also, they have an interesting ban policy (forum jail). Overall, I like this one though.

Serebii: Seems okay, their rules are somewhat vague, but seem standard for forums. They also censor, but make way less of a big deal about it. Still, I've heard things about the staff, so I'll have to go back and look around more.

UPnetwork: They seem very small, I don't know how many new members we would get. I looked around and couldn't find rules, only an FAQ. Then I found a thread called 'Osama Bin Laden is seriously fucking dead' I'm excited about this one. We may have found TED a new home. However, they only have 124 active members, which might be a problem.

Smogon: The community seems older definitely, but there's not really a writing or RP section. It seems to be centered mostly on competitive battling, so I don't know how well we would fit in. Beyond that, I don't know.

Marriland: Let me quote: "This rule is very important. Unlike a lot of Forums that like to let things slide, the Marriland Forums are rated PG. The Marriland Forums are to be appropriate for children and parents, and are to be family-friendly." I don't think we're going to Marriland.

HungryPokemon: I found this one on accident, but I'll cp from the first page: "WARNING: This forum contains adult content. You must be of legal age to register to, and view, this site!" It seems to be furry based and aimed at adults. There are no restrictions really, other than that there are one or two clean boards. I'd just like to say this would be my first choice of a forum to move to.


I think those are all the main ones. If I think of any other forums to check, I'll let you know. So far, Pokecommunity is my favorite.

 

I hope most of everyone here didn't agree just because Pidge posted the idea, and they're on his bandwagon.

Anyway, it's not a bad idea. Expanding isn't really ever a bad idea unless it's a bad concept trying to expand If URPG expands when it's inactive, then we might not have the right amount of people to even help the new forum once starting. It's best to do it at times like these. Also, summer is usually a good time, or any time of the year with an extended time off.

 

I've done a bit of snooping at PC myself, and I like the stuff they have going on. Perhaps geared a bit towards a younger demographic, but isn't everything Pokemon? There's the whole "PG" thing, but maybe we just don't move the quote thread there... Anyway, I'd say if we do decide to pitch URPG at other Forums we go there. It seems like a community instead of a website, and I think they would be more likely to accept us. Alaska was pretty dead-on with the other websites. Serebii could work, but that site has somewhat of a reputation. They aren't exactly reliable as a forum (not like we have that problem with BMG amirite), but the amount of traffic they get is nice, and would be sure to boost URPG activity, which seems to be the goal.

If we do it, we should definitely do it in the summer. It's the URPG's (and I expect all three forums as well) busiest time, and more people will have time to help newer members get familiar with how we run things. If we don't have time to do it this summer, my suggestion is to just wait until next summer. It's not like we're having problems with activity, so we can stand another year without merging. But, I'm not an official so what does that matter xD

Also, I'd love to help out any way I can, if that counts for anything

 

WAR is really a PE2k thing and I think if we expanded to a forum, anyone new that joins won't be part of it until the next following summer. It's how you just can't expect to enter in the middle of a game of monopoly. As it is, some urpgers on PE2k do not take part in the WAR, the URPG part of the war, and/or battle factory. Do not rest just at Pokebeach. Yes, I have as well suggested them as a possibility. I created an account there and have yet to start an introductory post. There are other websites such as Pokelightforums. But most importantly I think that when the decision is made to go to say Pokebeach and they accept us, then gradually work the transition. Although I'm pretty sure you guys know what you're going to do because you're officials for a reason.

 

Yeah, out of everything I found, I'd say I'm really shooting for Pokecommunity if they'll have us. Also, I agree with Roulette that we should try to expand strategically. Maybe we could even do it in spring like we did with BMG? If we could get permission and started setting things up ahead of time, then we could have it ready when we all went on spring break or something. EVERYONE KNOWS HOW RELIABLE WE ARE AFTER A FEW PINA COLADAS.

 

I already have an account at PC, so I'd be happy to help out with URPG moving to PC. It's quite active and has a RP and Fanfic section, so the members are used to writing/RPing.

If URPG moved to PF I'd love it, but PF isn't a kind of site that'd accept URPG.


/edit: We could make our own (proboards/something else) forum JUST FOR URPG.

 

We already do have our own forum just for URPG. It's not used very often, though, because it's only to be used when both PE2K and BMGF are down. ;D

I don't know any Pokémon Forums outside of BMG, PE2K and Serebii so yeah...

 

Hmm... I'm sort of echoing iReign here. It seems PC is one of the most popular options, but then, as Alaska said, they're aimed at a bit of a lower age range, so there might be a few more 12-13s joining. And we all know about the newfag/oldfag banter that goes on...

I definitely think we might need toning down a bit, at least until they're got that URPG sense of "If you can dish it out with the best of 'em, you'll last a long time".

Unless I've completely missed what iReign was saying, but yeah... xP

 

Did you people miss the part at the beginning where we said PC already turned us down last time? xP

 

We could reopen negotiations. Other than the younger member base, it seems really solid. If we can't get in there, I'd say let's go for Pokebeach.

 

They said they weren't interested last time, but surely that could have been because PE2K was dying and it looked bad. Maybe if we approached them again with BMG thriving their answer could be different. All in all it's not the big of a deal, but I think PC is the ideal spot for the URPG.

 

I still think its too early to re-open negotiations with PC. I feel we'd look rather desperate going back there after just one year, regardless of the fact that we come to them on a platform of willful expansion as opposed to necessity.

 

We could say that URPG would bring them more members, since some BMGf/PE2K members would join just for URPG.

 

I don't think they're really too concerned about their traffic atm.