URPG PokéMafia II (GAME OVER - MAFIA WINS)

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Wow you still can't get over the fact that I have the roles that Pidge passed down to me. Hey everyone how about I do the same thing as Pidge and godkill myself cause this scum Neon is trying to lynch me!! No I won't cause what Pidge did was stupid and wasted a valuable role.

And even if you haven't asked anyone for roles it doesn't make you clean. I'm sorry Pidge but I am revealing myself, I'm just lucky that Neonsands repented and changed vote. But it doesn't take him off the hook people should re-read his posts, trying to protect the Indie while persuading votes to me, scum be scum.

Edit:
Also because you previously stated I fucked up on the last lynch (which was partly my fault even though I was just a voice) I'll just compile some links of you being an idiot.

http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2795970&postcount=244
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2796040&postcount=247
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2780041&postcount=77
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2784124&postcount=108 (Contradicting statement with post 244)
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2784514&postcount=130
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2784703&postcount=151 (Him wanting to rid of an Independent but look at his last 4-5 posts now)
http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2796471&postcount=281
(His now claiming last vote was all my fault and he voted against his will ;\)
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Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Granted if you take them out of context, sure they could be considered stupid. Does that mean any of my accusations weren't based by the facts I had readily available to me?

Link 1 and 2. Me voting Pidge. Oh dear, I must have been the only one or something.
Link 3. Before anything even started me trying to start off being active.
Link 4. Me checking with WTP to see if his story matches up with the one given to us by Pidge.
Link 5. Day 1 where no other evidence was present besides an independent being revealed. This time I tried to use a plan so the village would benefit. I guess that is a bad thing.
Link 6. Me trying to get a lynch after Pidge's godkill. The logic around it making total sense and having been explained in a previous post. We can see how the villages benefitted from the No Lynch...

Oddly enough, if link 1 and 2 are stupid because I voted Pidge, you did the exact same. And for all of your knowledge of Epicmafia, it strikes me as a little weird that you didn't know what a Yakuza did, when we talked Day 1 and you told me you were voting Pidge.

I'd also like to point out that you have hardly refuted my points, instead choosing the easy way out of just saying "why not?" or the most advanced equivalent you could come up with.

Please everyone, reread my posts and tell me where I wasn't trying to turn the villages losing streak around. I like action, not sitting around and letting the mafia kill off more people till we can figure anything out with power roles. Which hasn't been successful at all so far.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

I'll be honest with ya... All of us suspect you. You don't act right ._.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

From a friend who wishes to remain anonymous:



(Anonymous) I kinda wanna kill Neonsands
(Anonymous) I have to read his fucking long-ass posts
alaskapigeon1 12:35 am
xD
(Anonymous) might be worth lynching him just to shut him up <_<



This. Sorry, Neon. xD

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Ouch Poor Neon D: Done well so far though

Voting Knight of Shadows.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

What exactly have I done negatively towards the village so far? I've said since I outer my role Day 2 that anyone could investigate or watch me and see the I'm not lying. I am a villager. I don't visit anyone at night because I am a granny who kills mafia when they visit. I accused Ketamine because I had a reason. I've always had a reason.

I'm sorry I make long posts. I try to fit in as much evidence as I can so people don't think I am just trying to get a lynch. If I've done nothing to prove my innocence, I suppose I haven't done a good enough job of convincing anyone. If you all really suspect me; I'm sorry for not doing my job as a villager. Please lynch me tomorrow if that is the case.

Let me just say, my role prevents the mafia from killing me. Just like Turtwig, this is a role they would like to get out of the way so they don't have to worry about it later.

If anyone would like to see my rational for voting Ketamine, I'll keep it here.
1. Day 1, during the anonymous lynch, Ketamine approached me and basically told me to vote Pidge. Luckily I didn't and he lived another round. When we had this conversation, Ketamine I explained a theory I had about WTP and Pidge being mafia (can be found in one of my early posts). When I mentioned the Yakuza role Ketamine asked me what it did. This is odd because I know he plays mafia and since he knows all of the lingo used there, why wouldn't he know the role.

2. The whole Turtwig ordeal. He received and posted the news about Bulba Turtwig immediately after the Night was over. This leads me to believe that he was already in communications with the inspector and urged her to inspect him, knowing full well that he was framed.

3. Before we both remembered that a joint win was possible, you gave voted to lynch the independent; after which, when I explained my plan, you said that letting the mafia and independent kill each other off was a bad idea. And your reasoning was that we wouldn't get any leads from it. That seems a tad ridiculous for reasoning.

4. Now taking posts of mine completely out of context so that I look stupid. And then addin your little taglines of what I was saying. Sorry, but even those were wrong. These were all posts from early on, when I had little to go on and still made valid points.

5. You keep claiming that you are expecting to die and that you are going afk. Neither one of these has come true. Everyone already knew you had a list of roles. That was obvious by some of your earlier posts. So why aren't you dead yet?

6. Your role is too perfect for what you are doing.





I would like to propose something. Watch me tonight or whatever. I won't visit anyone and there will still be a mafia kill.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

I don't think your mafia, but I'd like to point out that even if you were mafia, you could just not vote and the rest of the mafia's votes would decide who got lynched.

Lynch Knight of Shadows

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Not only that, but the Mafia could deliberatly not kill someone in order to frame you. So really it doesnt prove much :/

Lynch Knight of Shadows

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Nothing, I was kidding. BUT you're turning into mini-Pidge, so watch yourself. Also....don't tell anyone this, but if you're REASONABLY quiet in mafia games and stay low, you usually don't get random jackasses accusing you of being Mafia all the time. ;D (Now that I've said something I've ruined it for myself, but I'm a martyr like that.)


EDIT:

Oh yeah, and I should probably lynch someone too. Knight of Shadows since everyone else seems to know what they're doing.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Fine. Here are my words before the bandwagon lynches me. You've lost important people: at least every night. Synthesis died Night 0, forcing votes to be in PM, meaning nobody could gang up and lynch on a Mafia member. Then 1-2 nights later the nurse dies. This can't just be purely luck. A night or so later the inspector dies. Then the bodyguard. But the Mafia must have also known about the Gallade role, another reason to kill the bodyguard.

Mafia now know my role, and they will try to kill me if you choose not to lynch me. And anyways, I guess I'll post my role.

Gallade can kill, yes, you are all right. Gallade is also neutral.

So long, friends.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Um.

It is beneficial for the Mafia to let the Independents stay alive. They share the goal of killing villagers. Which means, the more people dead, the more they both benefit. Which means, the Mafia has no reason to kill the Independent until the last moment, and the Independent has no reason to deliberately target the Mafia (not that they know who the Mafia even are, or they would have said something previously). So if the Mafia are smart, they're going to let the independent do his thing. Hence, if we want to risk the life of our few remaining villager roles, we should let the Independent stick around.

And, uh, no thanks.

So point being, lynching KoS.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Well, I would like to make a deal with the mafia right now. Kill Ketamine tonight and I will surrender myself to my own lynch tomorrow. No questions asked, I'll vote for myself. This gives you a chance to prove me wrong and get rid of an otherwise untouchable villager and a villager who knows well more than most. The choice is yours.

Ketamine should have no qualms about this, he already expects to die and is sharing his information with another "trusted villager". If you truly are a villager, you must realize that getting rid of my "scummy" self would be more than beneficial to the village, no?

If I am wrong, I deserve to be lynched anyways.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Hi mafia kill me tonight pls to prove Neon is maf. To answer some of the questions I claimed I was dying tonight, if you have found it anywhere else post it, also I have been afk I do not post during weekdays, only to post to lynch on my iPod like now.​

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Isn't that a little bit of an overreaction Neon? Infighting like this does nothing but play into the hands of the Mafia, and they seem to have more than enough going for them right now.

Also I agree with Neon's notion that lynching an independant feels like a waste, although I'm not sure if anyone has any better leads on Mafia members. After all the Independant needs to finish off all Villagers to win, but the Mafia need only outnumber us and so can achieve a victory far faster than the Independant can (it is only a joint victory if they achieve on the same turn, i.e. 1 remaining Mafia when he kills the last Villager) - this is all assuming I understand the rules correctly.
As the Independant I'd be tempted to kill off a few known Mafia to reduce their numbers, thus making it harder for them to win and so giving 'me' more time to finish off the Villagers for a joint victory, meaning that the Mafia do have something to fear from him. I'd personally feel fine leaving him alive for another Day, if we have a decent lead on a Mafia member to follow up.

So until any info pointing to the Mafia heads my way I'm defying the bandwagon and going for a No Lynch vote

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Something tells me that we're totally screwed... Other than that, however, the evidence against KoS is so substantial that one cannot deny it. Neon, you really seem rather suspicious but I'm sure that's just you making mistakes, right? I think that it would be safe to just lynch KoS.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Baha, this is a fantastic false dilemma Neon's given everyone. I don't want to say much now, because the Mafia really don't need to know what their choices will ACTUALLY be saying... but it's not what Neon's trying to make us think they'll be saying.

For now, two things.

1. Every single turn, people have been saying, "I smell a rat. Someone who has power and knows who we are is feeding information away." Ketamine's name has come up almost every day. iirc, someone went all, IF ONE MORE IMPORTANT VILLAGER DIES, I'M LYNCHING KETAMINE. People keep suspecting Keta. It's blatant, it's obvious, it's repetitive. So, given all that, why would the Mafia keep killing important villagers if it'll bring Keta under suspicion?

2. If Keta isn't killed by Mafia tonight, it'll have nothing to do with Keta and everything to do with Neon. This is not an accusation of Mafia-hood for Neon. But, he's made several key assumptions along the way. These assumptions (and how correct they are) should determine the Mafia's choice, outside circumstances pending.

Talk to me if I trust you and you want to know my reasoning... I just don't want it available in-topic, because Mafia could use it to dupe and out-strategize.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

@Nemo: Send me your reasoning, please. I gotta log for now.
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Neon-Keta are both suspect; Neon, perhaps a little more so.

@Those saying an independent isn't such a bad thing: KoS said he was neutral in one of his recent posts. Page 29, I believe. What exactly does neutral mean? What is his role now? 'cause usually when twin roles are broken, the surviving sibling/lover/friend/ect. goes nuts and gets killing powers. So unless Feng gave him a list of Mafia targets, he might go around offing villagers instead of Mafia. So we will have two deaths a night--one a villager, the other a chance at being a villager.

He didn't deny Keta's posting of his role and he hasn't brought up much else concerning his new role, so...

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

Neutral Means rogue, as in not aligned with the Village or the Mafia. They fit their own agenda, and work against both.

EDIT: Actually, they don't normally work against the Mafia, and are usually either neutral or work with them, as most rogues have to have no villagers left alive to win, as do the mafia sorta. Although I haven't played Feng's version, so he could make some rogue roles that win by killing everyone.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

LM raises an interesting point I didn't think of. The mafia did kill Gallade's wife. Would Gallade be able to reach an agreement with the mafia and get a joint win after that? It seems likely that Gallade would be set on killing everyone related to the death of his wife: i.e. village and mafia. I'm not saying we should keep the neutral alive anymore, that idea seems pretty hated, but if we kept both the neutral alive and kept my challenge to the mafia, things could get rather complicated for the mafia.

 

Re: URPG PokéMafia II [DAY 5]

This would all make sense if Knight of Shadows actually gave a damn about whoever the hell that was that died. This isn't an actual love story ._.

Not to mention, judging by the rules, KoS has only to gain from killing the village. If he kills a maf, they'll know and kill him. If he kills village, he gets to live, if the Mafia is so kind. Its a lose-lose for the village.

Oh and the stupid as hell rule that states that Neutral and Mafia can win joint victories... Why would he bother with killing the Mafia?

EDIT: How does he even know who the mafia are? ._.