The Ultra Dex (Gen V) - Discussion

SO BW2 has been out for awhile im sure most people have found ways of playing it or atleast are watching some of the lets plays on you tube, the updated move list is also available to read so out of curiosity when will the ultra dex be updated (yeah i really want aqua tail on my serperior deal with it)

 

URPG updates when the English release happens.

 

nazi von torso, Meowth thats right

 

okay but dude i need that aqua tail lol

 

I know B2W2 aren't being implemented until English release, but what about DW SMs that are available easier in B2W2?

http://serebii.net/black2white2/icycave.shtml
http://serebii.net/black2white2/ruggedmountain.shtml
http://serebii.net/black2white2/spookymanor.shtml
http://serebii.net/black2white2/sparklingsea.shtml
http://serebii.net/black2white2/windsweptsky.shtml
http://serebii.net/black2white2/pleasantforest.shtml
I know the above pages are B2W2, but this page http://serebii.net/blackwhite/icycave.shtml is BW and lists Shell Smash Shuckle, while the other pages for BW don't list moves.

Shuckle: Shell Smash (level up in B2W2)
Heatmor: Giga Drain (MT in B2W2)
Golett: ThunderPunch, Fire Punch (MT in B2W2)
Klang: Gravity (MT in B2W2)
Sigilyph: Heat Wave (MT in B2W2)
Scolipede: Superpower (MT in B2W2)

@We Taste Pies...

 

Under Arceus, it lists the moves Seismic and Toss. There shouldn't be a comma between them.

 

Machamp gets Wide Guard through level-up, but it's not in the Ultra-Dex.

huehuehue i caught something that wasn't a typo

 

COFAGRIGUS HAS SHADOW BALL AS LVL UP AND TM

 

A couple ghosts that get it by level up are listed as both level up and TM actually.

 

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More SMs:
Reshiram: Mist
Zekrom: Haze
Mewtwo: Electro Ball (it's listed under Mew, which doesn't get it)
Squirtle: Hydro Cannon (SM for Squirtle/Totodile and MT for their final evolutions), Follow Me
Charmander: Blast Burn (SM for Charmander/Cyndaquil and MT for their final evolutions), Acrobatics
Bulbasaur: Frenzy Plant (SM for Bulbasaur/Chikorita and MT for their final evolutions), Weather Ball
Piplup: Sing
Rayquaza: V-Create

Also, if the preevo moves thing I suggested earlier is implemented it might be worth adding those moves with a note to the Ultra Dex, especially the ones for Murkrow, which currently reside in two gyms. I can find the thread if needed, I listed a lot of them there.

And there's also the thing I think I mentionted about some moves that are MTs (and a level up move) in B2W2 but are also available as SMs via DW now. http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f394/ultra-dex-gen-v-discussion-100559/index7.html#post4223169

 

Sorry, what did you suggest?

If moves that are currently learned through Move Tutor and BW2 introduces those moves via SMs, they will be ignored in the Ultra Dex since BM > MT > SM.

 

Not sure, but I think he was saying that the new moves are currently SMs as a result of being made available in the Dream World (I'm assuming recently), but after BW2's release, they will become MTs or level-up moves.

 

Nitro is correct, and I had a list of them in the link.

What I had suggested was that moves that are learnable by an "easier" method by their evolved form still be available to the preevolution and be refunded/returned to bag (TMs)/swapped for another move (daycare moves) if it evolves, such as Dark Pulse on Murkrow which is an important move if it has used Calm Mind a few times and is level up for Honchkrow, as Murkrow is currently in two gym lineups (including mine). I had a list of some of those in the thread I made about it, but there are also a lot more.

 

Arcanine has Retaliate as level up and TM.

And if people have been updating BMG Ultra Dex, you should update TPW/PWN Ultra Dex too because it's so much better (it's on one page). Or maybe just consolidate them into the one page one.

And it looks like some of the SMs were updated in the BMG Ultra Dex, but Electro Ball is still listed under Mew instead of Mewtwo

 

If this thread applies to the new Ultra Dex, I'd like to say Zubat/Golbat/Crobat don't have Swift in their level up moves and that is new in B2W2.

Weavile's entire entry starting with DW Ability is underlined.

Vespiquen is misspelled Vespiqueen. This makes it annoying to get to that page.

 

In the new Ultra-Dex, the image for Ampharos has the wrong link. It should be 181.png, as opposed to 811.png.

 

All corrected! Please use http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/f394/new-ultra-dex-launch-140713/ for future reports.