The Ultra Dex (Gen V) - Discussion

Okay, I did the last two posts. Also, try to post the link to the post in question, it makes it easier to get to.

 

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Magnezone doesn't have Charge Beam listed as a TM, while Magneton does. Also, Magnezone learns it by TM. So, yeah.

pidge: ok

 

2 links listing Gastly getting Sludge Wave via its new appearance in DW (and the first not showing another method to obtain it).

EDIT: Also Misdreavus with Inferno. And I'm still checking each one I guess.

This lists Smeargle as getting Captivate and Sleep Talk through Dream World (though I suppose it could get those through Sketch, but idk if this would be treated as Sketched moves or if it could get them as 11th and 12th moves instead). Serebii does NOT confirm this as of now, as far as I can tell, however.

Oh, and I suppose the question kinda fits here. If a Pokémon is released via a DW promotion but not the DW proper (like the Eeveelutions or the currently-available Banette), if it has a move not normally obtainable, is it a DW move or a SM due to it not being normally available in DW itself?

Alright, I'm done searching through those. Couldn't find any more, though some moves are still unlisted and I may have missed others.

EDIT ONCE MORE: Got a Gastly with Sludge Wave. Just for further proof and stuff.

pidge: fixed and in that hypothetical situation it would be dw i guess, i'll ask ataro to see if we can just simplify it so all dw moves are just like other sms

 

For some reason the calc and dex have two different speeds listed for Milotic. Dex says 269, while the calc says 261.

pidge: fixed

 

261 is right

 

http://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/Counter_(move) Pichu, Pikachu, Raichu get Counter (MT)

@Pidge

ok

 

Says Darmanitan gets Hammer Arm via level up and as a BM

fIxed

 

Snivy - Servine - Serperior now get Synthesis and Aromatherapy as SMs. Here's a link to the Bulbanews article on it and this is the Wonder Card you get with it.

done

 

I'd like to wait for the actual release date (Dec. 4) of the Pokemon before letting it learn the moves. This is sort of analogous to waiting until Platinum and all of its updates are released, or waiting until Black/White was released in English.

 

Sure, not a problem.

 

Says Starly and its evo line get Steel Wing by TM and BM

fixed

 

Koffing now gets Sludge Wave via Dreamworld (Serebii link here).

Spinda now gets Superpower via Dreamworld (Serebii link here).

done

 

I don't know if you list SMs that only exist in Japan so far, but if you do here are some (and the ones with parentheses are/were in other place too):

Victini: V-Create, Fusion Bolt, Fusion Flare (this is actually a current US/Europe/somewhere else event)
Snivy: Synthesis
Audino: Present
Mewtwo: Electro Ball
Deoxys-A: Meteor Mash (this is from a while ago, it was for Ranger: Guardian Signs)
Jirachi: Draco Meteor (also an old event)

EDIT: Forgot link... http://www.serebii.net/events/2011.shtml All the events are on this page, except the last 2 which are here: http://www.serebii.net/events/2010.shtml
You can ctrl/+f the Pokémon to find it.

done

 

What is up with Tentacruel anyway

it has Knock Off as a BM and MT, and also has Sludge Wave as a TM when it gets it by level-up.

ok

 

Snorlax has Zen Headbutt as a BT and a MT

ok

 

Slowbro has Slack Off listed twice in its level-up moves.

 

Both Smogon and Serebii have Tirtouga getting Smack Down, Rain Dance, Protect through TM.

@Pidge​

 

It learns those moves level up.

 

Damn, should've paid better attention.​

 

OK GOT A COUPLE OF PROBLEMS @Pidge

Xatu gets Ominous Wind by level-up and it's listed as a DC move. Also, Zen Headbutt is listed twice in its DC stuff.

pidge: i dun fixed it i thunk