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The Impending Crisis of the South (URPG)

Discussion in 'Trainer's Court' started by Alaskapigeon, Jul 5, 2012.

  1. Alaskapigeon

    Alaskapigeon The Hyacinth Girl

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    Let me tell you of my experiences with bringing people to the URPG from real life

    1) Girl stalked Monbrey for about 8 months and had a picture of him shirtless in her binder. To this day I don't know where it came from. She scared DODO.
    2) Different girl picked fight with ST and Jr. then left.

    Either way... If you know people that aren't psycho bitches, please, bring them.

    [​IMG]

    In any case, you are an amazing example of a dedicated URPG member. I tip my monocle to you, sir.
     
  2. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    She stalked my Facebook page and stole it from there. Bitches be crazy.
     
  3. BlazeMaster

    BlazeMaster Creator of Nathan Castle

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    I think that Battle Frontier's a good idea. I think that we should do a World-Tournament-esque event with EVERYONE!
     
  4. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    While I can't speak for everyone, I can speak for why I left and why I don't care for coming back. It's not simply one reason, there are a lot of things that really made me grow to hate it. The way it was run by those in charge, the need for drama and bitching, the lack of good battles and the lack of activity/general excitement by those who do frequent.
    You did not slash all ties. That's a stupid mind-frame and I expected better from you of all people. You are quite active in TWR and MM, and also on Skype from what I've heard. I can safely say that the rest of BMGF doesn't know about this section or they think it's a crappy RPG game with no interaction with other members.

    You have the exact same reasons as me. I couldn't agree with this more.
    Your idea of some big incident(s) that have happened in the URPG is literally nothing compared to what the staff deals with on a daily basis. Seriously, they don't care about some little quibble that happened years ago, and I'm sure most of the staff now weren't around as staff then or don't even remember it. Honestly, the URPG excludes itself time and time again. Pe2k elitism and a sense of authority elsewhere on the forums is what gets you guys excluded. I get along much better with regular BMG members than I ever did with you guys.

    An expansion is not the answer. BMG is the most widely recognised Pokemon forum on the Internet thanks to its own success as a forum and from Bulbapedia.

    Why not just post elsewhere and try and enjoy it like the rest of us. It shouldn't be a chore.
     
  5. Sormeki

    Sormeki Sorm

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    I do think we need to be more active in the day to day goings on of the forum as a whole. We all enjoy Pokemon and this is a Pokemon forum. It should not be that hard. As a general rule, a forum rpg does better when it's members are there for the forum as well as the rpg. Look at PE2K, we are pretty much deeply ingrained in the community there. We can do that here as well. And, if we were to do that on TPW we might be able to salvage at least something from there. When we expand we shouldn't just be putting the URPG out there hoping someone will notice it and pick it up, but rather actually join the community and let people come as they will after seeing that we care about being a part of their community and not just about extending URPGs grasp.

    Beyond that, I like the World Tournament idea. Perhaps we could also do some sort of Coliseum league similar to Battle Revolution.
     
  6. Alaskapigeon

    Alaskapigeon The Hyacinth Girl

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    Both Sormeki and Synthesis raise good points. If we want to not only survive, but to thrive as a community, we need to integrate ourselves with the forums we're on. We're already huge parts of PE2K and TPW due to their size and I don't think we'll ever have the same impact on BMG, but we can at least have SOME relevance. We should all go take part in other sections and I know a lot of members already do. If you like the Park, go join RPs. I've been trying to get more active in the Writer's Workshop and if you like writing stories than you could go do that. If your favorite part of the URPG is battling or doing contests, go check out the Wi-fi threads, And if you don't know what else to do, you could just go be a part of random discussions.

    Personally, I don't really see PE2K elitism anymore and I haven't in a long time. We're all one community, where we come from no longer matters, but if we want to become bigger and better and make more friends, we need to get out there and do something. That's how you can save the URPG.
     
  7. LS-

    LS- Love Sosa

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    The URPG hits a low point almost every year. It's just the way it works. It'll recover eventually.


    Meanwhile, I'd like to ask all the "URPG heads" to think about what they've been doing lately.


    Oh and yeah, everyone knew that when pidge left that the URPG would fail. Pidge held us up and did everything. Nobody appreciated him and a group of bmgers even tried to rival against him secretly. xd


    You new generation of URPGers have caused Pidge to leave and have left us in this mess.

    fix it plz and ty
     
  8. We Taste Pies...

    We Taste Pies... pikachu in a highchair

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    URPG needs a new villain.

    >Doesn't URPG anymore
    >Criticizes newer members over activity


    Here's essentially what has happened:

    A good number of upper-battling tier URPGers have left. People in their tier of battling skill have become bored because they have nobody to battle. They leave out of boredom. Essentially, Pokemaster's domino effect comment in action.

    Meanwhile, with people leaving out of boredom and lack of being challenged, that limits what the staff can do to alleviate the situation. I mean, we can't just say "Hey, we're having X events this month! Come do this stuff!", because people have already resigned themselves to quitting. What needs to be done is to hold onto our current and newer members, try to draw in new activity, and hope that our more experienced battlers will come back, essentially, restarting the activity cycle. URPG activity is very much a science we can predict, to some extent.

    Anyway, LS is in fact correct about this low point. He is, however, wrong to blame anyone for it.
     
  9. GliscorMan

    GliscorMan URPG!

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    First off, hi. I thought that needed to be said.

    Secondly, to business.
    To business!
    Oh, sorry, thought you were making a toast.

    Thirdly, I really think there are a few things you've overlooked. While it matters how people left, it matters more how people started. Most of us, for BMG, at least, started on the forums and forums alone. I know that I only battled on the forums for quite some time before getting AIM. And, a quick look confirmed my suspicions. There are quite a few people that are active on the forum battles and not in other places. This is good. These people can be taught to stick around. How do we do this? Faster battles on the forums and, possibly, even a tournament. All based on the forums. Most events, however, won't help solve the problem. While the ratio of people who apply for a starter to the people that stay for more than a month has always been a problem, it isn't one we need to worry about. We need to increase the influx of members, and to do that, we must advertise, like Alaska said. Be nice to the newbies on our fledgling forum. Integrate yourselves into the community outside URPG, be it through Mafia games or video game discussions. And carry something related to the URPG in your signature, whether its a link to the starter forum or your personal stats, or even just a random quote that links back to the Quote Compilation. Every bit counts and could help someone become interested in the first place.
     
  10. Roulette

    Roulette The People's Champion

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    This kind of attitude isn't exactly helping things. LS, you've contributed nothing over the past 6 months (probably longer), yet you always have problems you want others to solve for you. At least attempt to help things yourself before calling on everyone else to fix it for you.

    Also the URPG Heads have been working their asses off for the past few weeks and have a lot of stuff planned for the near future.

    And blaming every problem in URPG on BMGers is getting stale. You will have to come to terms with the fact that some people started playing URPG after you, I know it's crazy.
     
  11. BlazeMaster

    BlazeMaster Creator of Nathan Castle

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    I think that if we want to integrate ourselves, the RPG is the best place to start. After all, are we not first and foremost and RPG? With our own sub-forum, it is easy to forget this. Places like War Room and RPGs are a good place to start. Also, I think that we should consider ourselves individuals outside of URPG.

    I, for instance, occasionally frequent the anime sub-forum, and do occasionally see you guys around here. It is good to have our own interests and be individual, and not hopping as a group from one sub-forum to the next.
     
  12. Meyneth

    Meyneth Storm

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    If you want to integrate your self's, them maybe you should go an post in the Fun and Games section, It helped me get used to Bulbagarden when I first joined, and helped me get used to posting here. The chat threads are also good, and the conversational chat thread is one of the best. Mafia games are good too.
     
  13. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    Yes yes, you've come in, said something controversial, trolled etc etc, ultimately helped nothing and ultimately will help nothing.

    Oh, and wipe that brown smudge off your nose. Pidge wont like it if you're dirty.
     
  14. Elite Twit

    Elite Twit Keepin that EV train goin

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    I sat here, bored at work reading this thread start to finish. Not until I saw GliscorMan post did I realize something and decide to post. Were it not for him, I would have never come here. He participated in one of my WiFi tourney's. After we PMed a few times I decided to check it out. People who battle know too many mons that all have that 4 slot syndrome. There's plenty I use on a daily basis and have said damn I wish I could have added just that one more move for coverage. The URPG offers a unique twist on the games, and is very fun at the start.

    After my initial battles, that all took entirely too long, I lost interest trying to find a ref, find a battling partner and then get it completed in a timely manner. I also got entirely too busy with work so all of my gaming suffered, especially forum frequents. For the most part every has said there needs to be more activity, from all staff as well as members, new and old. In my opinion, there is ENTIRELY too much emphasis on the AIM aspect of the URPG. I sit and read through battles, ON THE FORUM. I like to see how people can get creative with their movesets. This is a forum "game" "section" whatever you want to call it, yet FFAs and larger tourneys are held by and for those sitting on AIM.

    Now I may have missed it, not known, what have you. I would love to participate in larger things, but on the forum. I do not have the time, during or after work to sit on AIM hoping for something to go on. A post somewhere stating "Hey, FFA this Thursday" would draw attention to it from those not on AIM. In the past month I've seen a bunch of new members join, I've gotten in some good battles, and read through some others. There are people wanting to be part of it. There are new people trying to grasp the concepts and newness of the URPG. They all started by joining on the forums, keep them interested in the forum.

    A forum tourney with set mons, pick 3 out of 8/10, 2k buy in. Something like that. People don't participate, there is a one week to get your match in or you're disqualified. Hell I'll set everything up for it. For those that think you need a 6v6 or it's not a real match, go find my Terrible Twos or Menage a Trois tourneys. There's plenty of strategy in those instead of counter my counter with your counters counter until rocks have taken their toll on every mon and priority attacks take over.

    I was not here from the beginning. I do not care who hates who, who likes who, who thinks they are better than thou. Look OUTSIDE the box you all have put yourself in. There's plenty of ways to bump activity, or there's plenty of ways to point fingers. Stop crying about what was, look at what is and what can be. This is a forum community, treat it as such.
    @GliscorMan; Just cause I can.

    I wrote this last night, then decided not to hit post. Then I saw @Captain Dude; 's Battles Exhibition post and decided I should. Now if only I had the mons to compete.
     
  15. Alaskapigeon

    Alaskapigeon The Hyacinth Girl

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    We do events on the forum. FFAs on the forum are uncommon because they tend to be huge and take up a ton of time, but they do exist. Most of the action happens on AIM because it's actually way faster than doing pretty much anything on the forum. That's not to say we neglect forum members. I do agree that perhaps we could post more notifications of events that were going to take place on AIM, but in general refs don't plan out when they're going to hold FFAs, which is why we don't post anything about those. One thing I would like to encourage is interaction between forum-only members and those who frequent AIM. I feel like there's a bit of a disconnect there.

    In any case, though, putting emphasis on the forum as opposed to AIM would make it more complicated for 90% of our members, since most of the URPG uses AIM. I respect the fact that some members don't want to use or can't use AIM for various reasons, but it really is where most of the socialization takes place. I can't speak for anyone else, but I will try to interact more with forum-only members.
     
  16. Sormeki

    Sormeki Sorm

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    I think what is trying to be said there isn't so much more forum and less AIM, but rather keep AIM as it is and bring the forum events and activities up to par with that. We could do like a big forum FFA every three months or something. They do take longer and they are bigger, but that is the fun of an FFA. AIM is great for individual battles, and we have forum battles as well, but the forum makes a great place for things like large scale FFAs and Tournaments, which would be nice to see more of. Some members of URPG don't have AIM or are unable to get on AIM regularly. This way they would not be excluded and it could also help bring the community together some more. Especially if we did some sort of team tournament where you get randomly teamed with someone else that signs up for it. You basically would have to work out a synergistic strategy within the first couple matches and hope by the end you get something going.

    Before I start rambling, don't decrease AIM activities but increase forum activities. Or, increase both. Breath some more life into URPG. Get some crazy and wacky stuff going on. We obviously all have the imagination for it. We are playing a text-based Pokemon RPG after all.
     
  17. Elite Twit

    Elite Twit Keepin that EV train goin

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    That's what I was trying to say. Not that AIM should be dropped or less frequented, but there is a disconnect between those on it, and those sticking with the forum. Which in turn could also lead to the cliques everyone seems to talk and complain about.

    Pretty much. I'm glad people got what I was trying to say, instead of thinking I was an ass. Or, if they did think I'm an ass, the point was still gotten. =P
     
  18. Rocket Queen

    Rocket Queen Clear skies, full hearts, can't lose. Social Media Coordinator

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    Saw my name come up and I figured it would be as good of a time as any to clear up some misconceptions about my URPG departure (This is HiPS by the way) as well as offer some suggestions for you guys.

    1. You didn't cut all ties with Bulba after I left. After all you still have a sub forum and I've talked to Harry multiple times at length about the BMG / URPG partnership.

    2. I don't hold a grudge against you guys and I'm certainly not spreading dirt to other users / staff / whatever. Sure my time as a URPGer didn't end in the best way but that brings me to my next point.

    3. My departure was overdramatized. Mainly by myself. Most of you (probably all) don't know this but I was under a lot of stress IRL when I quit URPG. And basically there were a couple minor incidents combined with some negative words spoken about me. Basically, I overreacted and pretty much stormed out. Not my finest hour or a mature way to handle something like that.

    4. As Syn said, you aren't that section. That would be the anime forum. The majority of BMGers don't know you exist and most of staff just knows you as an RP subforum.


    Okay. Now to make this post actually helpful, here's my two cents from a somewhat outside perspective.

    When you joined BMG, you were the 'it' thing. You were fresh, new, exciting. A lot of people signed up in those first few days and weeks. I remember the ref and grader shortages when I first started. There was a lot of excitement as people got into it.

    But that buzz is gone and you've faded into the background as just another RP. And take it from me, RP is not that popular of a section.

    So my suggestion would be to market yourselves as a battling sim of sorts. The VG subforum here is incredibly popular. I can see these people being interested in the battle aspects of URPG. The writers would love writing stories. Now to spread the word I suggest talking URPG up. Make a blog about an exciting battle you were a part of. Discuss a story you're writing for the URPG in the writer's workshop. Be creative.

    Oh and one more thing. If you think of something that I (or the bulba staff in general) could do to help out, don't hesitate to reach out.

    - HiPS
     
  19. We Taste Pies...

    We Taste Pies... pikachu in a highchair

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    Someone finally understands... I think I love you ;_;

    I don't see why this has always been so identified as an RP. There is very little RPing going on, with the exception of the Park. It made even less sense before the Park actually existed. If this was more of an RP than a battling SIM, then I sure as hell wouldn't be here, I'm not a huge RP fan.
     
  20. Captain Dude

    Captain Dude Made in America

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    What if we somehow exposed the other BMGers to the Exhibition Battles. Like, I plan on c/p'ing the whole battle as well as writing a review of each one. That way they could see the different strategies and crazy movesets that make URPG Battling so great.