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Basic Battles Being Reffed

Discussion in 'Trainer's Court' started by AceTrainer14, Nov 7, 2010.

  1. AceTrainer14

    AceTrainer14 The acest of trainers

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    Hello everyone.

    I, along with many others, have noticed this issue that we currently face in the URPG: Everyone is always getting basics, but there are never that many refs wiling to ref them.

    They do have fair reason to do so: reffing is meant to be high paying, and basic battles only provide them with $500.
    However, as many refs don't ref these battles, it puts lots of strain onto people such as Monbrey, Bumblebee, Trainer17 and DrStubbsberg, who usually ref these battles. They have to devote a lot of time to reffing them, and, due to this, they are unable to get battles for themselves.

    After discussing this issue with some people, we have thought up an idea to get them to ref: making basic battles into a mini-competition.
    Once the refs wages are calculated at the end of every fortnight I believe, the person who has reffed the most basic battles is given a reward, such as a daycare pass, an item or TM, or a basic Pokemon of their own.

    I think this is a useful way to try and get more basic battles reffed, and to spark up more reffing as well. I, along with others, understand why refs may not ref sometimes, but it is unfair to put lots of strain on other people who probably don't need it.

    So, discuss what you think of this idea, and any other ideas to try and fix the reffing situation.
     
  2. KidWithTheGoldenArmaldo

    KidWithTheGoldenArmaldo Trust me, I'm the Doctor.

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    This sounds like a pretty cool idea for refs. I would probably most definitely get more people motivated to ref some basic battles. It depends on whether or not the person who does wages would be willing to count the numbers up. I can't really say more on the subject, mainly because I don't really know much more. But I'd like to throw another possibility out there:

    Give me a license to ref basic battles. :D
     
  3. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    I do the wages, and I'd probably win all the rewards.

    I'M ALL FOR IT!
     
  4. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    It would encourage people to ref basics. SO YEAH.
     
  5. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

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    ... I'm not too sure about this. Reffing has always been a self-voluntary job and if you really have difficulties finding basic battles, I'd honestly just find a "buddy" ref and get him to ref for me 7 OHKOs. They don't pay, but chances are that you can get an evolution within 7 minutes.

    Best solution is still for people to take ref tests and become referees themselves. ^_^
     
  6. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    Um Aaro, in case you haven't noticed, no one wants to do Ref Test. Myself, HiPS and Neon couldn't get one for the last few days :'/
     
  7. Mubz

    Mubz Unregistered user

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    The answer to this problem is to get more refs. As we have seen, most of the refs that are newer are more willing to ref basics opposed to the more senior refs. If your having difficulty getting a ref test i suggest try and sort out a time to get tested with one of the senior refs.
     
  8. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

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    2HKO's are just as easy and still pay. Hell, if people just use the same two moves, I dont even have to calc, I can just copy and paste the stats 7 times.
     
  9. Stinky

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    If you guys want a ref test just PM me and set up a date and a time. I'll gladly ref test you then, assuming that you actually show up on time :loopy:
     
  10. Haze

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    Of the three you're the only one that asked me xP

    Honestly I don't think it would be much of a problem to find basic battles if some people didn't do retarded moves and stall. But no, there shouldn't be a reward for reffing basic battles
     
  11. TheGradebot

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    Problem with that is the refs might start to only ref the basics, or they'd get two of their friends and abuse it, like 1v1's fully evolved were abused until they no longer pay.

    Easy solution; More refs.
     
  12. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

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    Like with Crazy, I think only Synthesis asked me, and it was yesterday when I was sorting out some stuff. Other than that, I've only had Kaioo asked me before.

    You can always try sending me a PM to hopefully fix a time for a test if you can't find me on AIM anyway.
     
  13. AceTrainer14

    AceTrainer14 The acest of trainers

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    Fair points guys. I was discussing this with HKim, and we both thought that if people were unwilling to ref basic, an incentive would be a nice idea to do them. People do still like to get paid for these battles, so I don't think doing a bunch of OHKO's would work either, especially as then the ref would only get .5K still.

    But do you guys think an incentive would work, and why or why not?
     
  14. ~Near

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    Incentive would only work if we were given a story mon, and that would be completely unfair considering were already paid a fortune.
     
  15. ayotui

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    that's why a you don't need an incentive.
     
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    I am probably the person receiving the most ref test requests and denying them. This is probably because I'm on AIM a lot, but hardly am ever able to do tests or ref, because I'm usually doing homework.

    I don't think the pay is the problem for basic battles. They are the easiest battles to ref and give out a decent amount for almost nothing too intensive. Maybe how boring they are, or having to post over and over, or writing logs are the problem.

    For me, it does not really matter what kind of battle it is, but if I am able to do it at all.

    I don't see how certain OHKO battles do not pay anything, when you can just do stuff like that. ~_~
     
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    basic battles, if the people don't mess around stalling and stuff, can produce the ref with say the same amount of money as a 4v4 in like half the time, or less.

    I don't think there is any need for an incentive for refs to ref basics, for the following reasons:
    1: They get paid a lot.
    2: They're a ref, so they should ref basics.
    3: Refs should ref battles whatever the battle, as it is basically the point of their "job", which they also get paid a lot for (which ties in with 1.)
     
  18. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    I'MMA MAN OF MY WORD.

    WELL, I'LL BE DAMNED.

    I think I'll go ahead and do that when I know I'll have the time. Thanks anyway you silly refs.
     
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    I blame this problem on ppl who stall in basic battles. I mean, seriously? Its a basic battle people, not a E4 where you NEED to win. the purpose is to evolve quickly, not try and piss ppl off. You will still get decent money even if you lose. most refs dont do it coz they dont like it when its 1v1 and one person decides they want to take as long as possible to lose
     
  20. AceTrainer14

    AceTrainer14 The acest of trainers

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    The point of this thread is to get the refs to ref basic battles: they don't necessarily need an incentive, it was just one idea.

    I do agree with Kaioo with what he said: refs really should basic battles anyway. Yesterday, Bumblebee reffed 7 basic battles between me and CoastingWingull and it lasted less than five minutes. He would have made $3500 from doing that, which, I believe, is more than reffing a 6V6 and it took a ninth of the time.

    I think an incentive could be a fun way to attract more refs and to generally get old refs to ref. But HKIM, who supports this idea, and I are open to new suggestions you have