Phione

Phione - the Sea Drifter Pokémon.
A Pokémon that lives in warm seas. It inflates the flotation sac on its head to drift and search for food.



As of now, Phione is in a sort of limbo. You can't get it through stories, the mart or park, and no one would dream of choosing it as a legendary Pokémon.

The main issue with it is the dispute over its legendary status.
Some claim it is, others claim it isn't. Even an official source, Pokemon.com's mailbag, when asked if it was a legendary Pokémon, the response was initially no, then quickly changed to yes, and then the answer was removed entirely. The official game guide to Heartgold and Soulsilver state that it isn't a legendary, as does Pokémon Ranger: Guardian Signs (stated in-game).

The only other Pokémon that is so disputed as a legendary is Rotom, with the main argument against that being that it can breed. Well, so can Phione. The difference with Phione is that it is obtained through breeding Manaphy, the only legendary Pokémon that can breed. But does this mean Phione is also legendary?
I say it doesn't. And several sources agree with me here.
It can't evolve into Manaphy through any means, it is for all intents and purposes a stand alone Pokémon.

But would it be unfair in the URPG setting? Is it in the same power level as the legendary Pokémon? No, it's not. It only has a base stat total of 480, 100 points lower than the legendary trios. It has a very limited movepool, it doesn't even learn Manaphy's signature move "Tail Glow" (which boosts special attack by three stages, which could be cause for concern). If anything, I don't see many people wanting to use it because of it's mediocre fighting potential.

Why should it be made available? There appears to be no good reason not to allow it. It's arguably not legendary, and it's weak to boot. The poor thing is so overlooked in general, it should be given its chance to shine.

As far as how to obtain it, it might be a stretch to make it available in the mart, but it wouldn't be entirely unreasonable (in the vein of Lapras, Pinsir and other single-stage Pokémon)
But my proposal is to make it at least available through stories, and perhaps the park as well.

 

You has it.

I never really understood why Phione wasn't available in URPG and Rotom was, although making it available in mart would be good i doubt it will make it that far due to it's rarity

Also whats with all the Trainer court threads lately?

 

Phione/Hydration @ Eviolite with Rest in rain is scary. In a Water Gym, it can be rented easily and there'll be permanent rain to boot.

Lthough, I would like it to be available through stories. Demanding/Merciless would do it justice as ling as it can't be rented-- possibly used in Gyms, like with other Legendaries.

 

Well seeing as the primary condition for eviolite is that the Pokémon is able to evolve....

Lapras and Vaporeon both have Hydration and are much scarier. And mart.

 

If it's in any category then it will be allowed to be rented.​

 

Sure, why not. Just don't put it in the Pokemart.

 

Yeah, I think Phione should be available through stories. It's stats aren't that great, so it wouldn't be broken. Not like making Mewtwo catchable or something.....Plus, yeah, what Derian said.

 

HMMMMMMMM.

 

Manaphy's sig move is Heart Swap :X
But I don't see any reason why not. It would be an interesting addition and probably become a coveted Pokemon in the URPG. I would recommend Complex/Demanding because Merciless is reserved for the scariest and rarest Pokemon.

 

Why not Stupefying? It would be pretty cool to get a new Stupefying 'mon after Volcarona, if Phione is demoted.

 

Oh right, tail glow isn't signature. One of the fireflies gets it too.

Demanding would make sense to me, to put it at par with Rotom. The higher difficulties appear to be reserved for evolved Pokémon.
But I'm not really qualified to discuss story difficulties.

 

Also, it's stats are identical to that of Glalie.

And Tail Glow used to be Volbeat's signature move.

Another thing: All legendaries give 3 EVs. Phione gives 1.

 

I say make it demanding.

 

I say make it obtainable....

 

I too would like to see Phione become available. Though you could say it is a legendary because it hatches from one, it lacks all the attributes of your typical legendary, and just plain old sucks compared to other legendaries and even pseudo-legendaries.

If it were made available, meanwhile, Phione becomes a Pokemon that could make teams much stronger. It isn't a game-changer, and it's certainly easier to take care of with its singular typing than some other Pokemon. It is a good Pokemon, but not a game-changer as I said. Since its status as legendary is debatable, making Phione available will do more good than bad from almost all points of view.

 

Phione 4 Prez Obtainable

 

I thought you didn't like 'pseudolegends'. If you get one, you're a hypocrite. :smokin:

 

It has a flotation sack on its head. Legend my ass.

 

I'm going to revive this thread (seeing as the Chat thread is starting to drift towards this topic) and see where it goes. I feel strongly about Phione becoming availabke, and it seems many others do as well based off the discussion in this thread.

Hopefully, a decision gets made some time. Keep discussing this people, and hopefully it does become obtainable.

 

I think that we should definitely make it obtainable and that seems to be the general consensus. Most people don't believe that Phione is legendary and it doesn't quite make sense to make it legendary in the URPG.

With all of our other legendaries only one can exist at a time, because you can only get one in the games, but in the games you can breed as many Phione as you want, therefore I think we should be able to write for as many as we want in the URPG.

I say that we either make it a Demanding story mon (putting it on par with Rotom, who it's often compared to in terms of rarity), or maybe we could make something where if you currently own a Manaphy then you can purchase a Phione to keep at the daycare center (even though this is closer to how the game works this route seems a bit messier considering things from happening like stopping people from getting LD and trading a Phione to everyone that wants one).