Forum Auctions

I'd like to add that having fixed dates for ending forum auctions is a bit inconvenient. As much as I'd like a particular URPG Pokemon, entering a bidding war for it between 3:59 and 4:00 am isn't really my cup of tea. I assume that people in even less-convenient time zones than mine would say the same?

 

replace auctions with regular raffles!!!

 

Basically what CommBA said. No matter how much people can increase it by, that doesn't stop SOMEONE from trying to post in that last minute to win. Then there's the whole inconsistency issue of WHICH minute that is, which is never established BEFORE everyone tries to swoop in and get it at that last minute. Overall, that last minute just needs to not be the last minute.

 

lol, so basically you're just mad that 'some chump' got what you wanted because they did what people do at online auctions. That isn't a flaw that is the way auctions are. AIM auctions are completely different because they are done right then and there. 30 seconds or one minute now gets turned into one or two days after each post. My only problem is how long that could take. However, I am open to trying this out and seeing how it goes if that is the general consensus.

I can see how that could be a problem, but with a no limit on how much you can bid I don't see how you can lose a Pokemon other than not having enough money. In my opinion the problem here isn't the time it ends, it's how much you're willing to spend. But that is just my opinion and like I said, we can do a test run and try it out.

Not sure if you're serious or not, but it looks like we will be adding in raffles (alongside with auctions)

No, if someone beats you then they must have more money than you and they were willing to pay more for it than you were. But that is just the way I think I guess. In my opinion if you want something you should try and secure it, and if you don't have enough money for it, just hope that no one outbids you. There shouldn't be an inconsistency on which minute that is. It should be the minute before, what's so hard about that.

I guess my only problem is how long it could take. I like things to be punctual. But I guess with the no limit alongside with the 24 hour thing it could work and I'm willing to test it out when I do the next auction.

 

I'm not mad that someone got what I wanted. Hell, even ask Blue Towel and Airik, I told them I regretted bidding that much and didn't even want Inkay. What I am upset about is a flawed system.

But they're not winning because they have more money. A person is winning an auction because of the January 25th 2014 1:23:59 PM bid. The thing I do agree with you is yes, it could possibly take longer than a week. It also could take less than a week.

Also, of course, changing the forum auctions to a 24/48 hours until last post type of system will have its own flaws. Possibly the biggest I can foresee is someone using the extra time to acquire the funds for an increased bid.

 

I saw that as potentially being a problem as well, but didn't seem too big. I guess we'll just have to wait and see when we try it.

 

The other thing is that no one would immediately put out a bid of say, $40,000 if they could try to win it for less. First they'd try to get it for say, $5,000, then if that failed they'd increment it by as little they could to try and still win it cheaply. NOT EVERYONE IS SO RICH THEY CAN SPEND $225,000 ON OBTAINING ONE POKÉMON BEE.

Even on Ebay, you don't immediately force yourself to pay that full $40,000. It starts out as whatever your minimum bid would've been, then automatically increases up to that if people try to counterbid you, but if no one does you only spend that $5,000.

 

My only problem with Bee's suggestions is ruining the 'sport' of auctions. Let's say for example a Larvesta goes up for bid. If the first bidder is determined, they could just place a large bid, let's say 225k for no apparent reason, immediately, securing the win. I could even see that consistently happening too considering how there are a few players that seem to always have huge ampunts of money on hand for auctions.

At least with the current system, everyone who has at least a moderate amount of money has a chance of winning.

 

The thing is though, in an ideal system, the person with the most money /and/ the highest will to get an item should win. It's the same as any other real life auction. While I would normally support keeping the normal system with a few minor modifications, the fact that someone might have to stay up until 4 AM because of time zones and STILL might lose the auction is completely unfair. If someone has the money and they want the Mon hard enough, they SHOULD get the item. Last minute sniping is hardly fair, and this ensures that whoever gets it clearly has the materials/drive to obtain it.

If we're that concerned about the bid getting outrageously high, we could impose a maximum increase of say, 10k, and a minimum of 1k. But that really doesn't matter because bids are going to get as high as possible instantly instead of the current system where it stalls until the last hour where it changes from an auction into a ninja-ing competition.

 

We have a system like this on another site I frequent. its called anti-sniping, its an option for auctions. It could actually work better here, considering people have ridiculous amounts of money there as compared to here. Keep a minimum bid, and end it 24 hours after the last bid.The minimum will keep people from raising it by say 1 just to keep the win.

As much as people have said it doesn't work, it actually does, and rather well with limited bank accounts.

 

Emma i adore you this is my favourite idea too people will pay what they feel its worth or what there willing to and if someone outbids them then GG

its by far the best option stops last min bidding since i assume the first bid would be the only one considered and stops ash pissing n moaning about auctions because he got beat

 

As Ive discussed with other people, a 24 hour timeout on the auction with no minimum bid is really the best option. People can bid as much as they want, there's no last minute sniping, and the lack of a bid limit means that high prices will be reached quickly and the auctions wont drag on forever.

 

In addition to this, we're thinking of implementing separate auctions for each branch. Thus no one can "snipe" or confuse other players by posting in the other thread(s). Each auction would also auction a Pokemon different than the one(s) up in the other auctions. This will also make it easier for Auction officials to determine if an auction is finished or not since they'd only have to check one thread.

This will create a system in which auctions will end and start at different times rather than on a weekly schedule.

 

As settled upon by staff:

Discussed Rules:

• Auctions will end 24 hours after the last bid.
• Each branch's auction functions separately and independently of each other.
• The same Pokemon cannot be put up for auction in multiple branches.
• Members cannot bid a total amount greater than what they currently have.
• Bids cannot be retracted.

Full rules on Auction threads:

• Bids start at $1000.
• Bid increasements must be at least $100 but have no maximum bid. Members cannot bid a total amount greater than what they currently have.
• Auctions will end 24 hours after the last bid.
• The last person to bid gets the prize and has a week to claim it.
• All bids are non-retractable. If he/she can't claim the prize after the time period, he/she will have the money removed from his/her stats accordingly without getting the auctioned item.
• Each branch's auction functions separately and independently of each other.
• The same Pokemon cannot be put up for auction in multiple branches.
• Auctions will happen whenever they happen. Please have patience.