Art Capture Method

I think I may have mis-communicated.

I meant that people scoring from 75 points to 100 points will get two emblems. Those scoring 25 points to 74 points will get one emblem. And those scoring less than 25 points receive no emblem.

So it's easy to participate and show work, but hard to demonstrate considerable effort.

 

Ah, that works much better. This stops the problem of there being only 4 entrants and nearly all of them winning an emblem. I believe that it could work somewhat what was originally suggested, like stories, which you make an individual post for one piece of work and it gets graded, but condense it into a contest.

 

Okay then, it looks like we have a general organizational layout, rules, and rewards system.

Let's move forward with the idea. Keep the momentum going.

Two important things we need are Judges (Or whatever we call them: Jurists, Critics, Reviewers, etc.) and a general sense of how to judge art. I'm no artist. I don't understand the techniques involved or how this all works.

It would be helpful if we have URPG artists who can help out with this. We can also ask outside the URPG to the Art leaders on BMG and PE2K who understand this sort of thing.

 

Okay, just one quick thing on my mind is about the emblems - would we use them as the art section's "currency" where you spend them, or is it similar to the library's where you don't deduct them, but if you've gained the 5 or so you need for a simple 'mon, you get it and you keep all of the emblems? I think the first one is the best so there aren't as many Porygon-Z's running around, but I just thought about it so we're kind of using the library's system.

I've been looking at some of the past PE2K competitions (more specifically, some of the older WAR competitions), and I think I've managed to come up with some criteria.

Spriting:

Originality: Has it been done before? Try and think outside of the box if you want to score high in this category, because it is everything it says on the tin. If someone had done it in the same competition, it would lose points. For example, if two people post a sprite with a Dialga and Palkia fusion, the one who posted theirs before the other will probably get the most points in this area, but if you changed the general idea thoroughly, maybe adding a Giratina into the sprite, and recolouring it to a Pikachu. Be creative! (Out of 10)

Skill: How much skill have you used? How many different styles of spriting have you use in your piece of work? Remember, some styles of spriting have more appeal in this category. A fusion would be better than a recolour in this section, but a scratch would generally beat both of them. But it's not only about attempting it - it has to be pulled off. Make sure you are actually capable of doing the sprite, or you will drop quite a few points. (Out of 20)

Effort: To gain as many points as possible in this category, your sprite needs to look like you put your heart and soul into the piece, that it took a lot of time and majorly exceeded how well you usually sprite. It will take time to gain points in this category, but it will pay off, as this category is a whopping 30 points! (Out of 30)

The Sprite: This section is easily worth the most, worth 50 points, so it's important you try and excel in this category. Basically, this is an amalgamation of many sprite categorys used in other contests - you will gain points depending on your shading, how well the outlines look, and any other aesthetics like colouring and how eye-pleasing it is. Remember to take your time! (Out of 50)

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At the moment, I'm not going to do Graphics and Drawn Art, but if you'd like me to, I will, happily.

But there are a few points I'd also like to raise. First of all is the name. Jurors, Critics, Reviewers and Judges have all been suggested, but which should we choose? Well, Judges have been used in contests and that will cause complications with questions like "Oh, what Judges do you mean? The art ones or the contest ones?", so for now, let's rule it out. Now, out of thee three remaining, I like Critic the most. It's simple, is probably the most relevant, but however, critic sounds a bit harsh on the newer members who are looking to join. If you get criticized, the usually think of it as a bad thing. The one I like second best is Jurors. If you've noticed, all of the other "professions" are simply (or can be shortened to either one or two syllables, as it is easier to type, and say in your mind. Reviewers seems a bit long, and can't really be shortened, but Jurors is already quite short. And, I like the sound of it as it has been used previously in the thread. It is quite good.

Another thing is about these Jurors (or whatever we will call them). If they decide to enter a competition, they will lose out on their pay, since their job is to grade everyone's artwork, and you can't grade your own work. For them, its a choice. Pokémon, or money? Will there be some way around this?

 

My grandma's an artist. She's even had her art in museums, and won ribbons for it. So I think I'm pretty good at recognizing whether or not they put a lot of effort into the piece, and how creative it is. I'd be happy to help.

 

My mother is an art teacher, my father is a designer, and my brother is currently majoring in art (not to mention the rest of my family). I may lack the ability to draw, but I have a good understanding of the concept and idea of it. I would be overjoyed to help in whatever way I can.

And on the form of titles, I would say critics would be best. When your art work is discussed, it is called a critique. Therefore, those who are critiquing are known as critics for short.

 

You are not your grandmother, unless she had taught you many things about art, then that's a different story. This sounds more like 'My Grandfather's Jewish and was in the Holocaust, SO I KNOW PAIN!' no you don't, your grandfather does :'P

Neonsands is a little different in how both his parents were and his siblings are in, like how both my parents are in medical and so is my sister, so me going into medicine is a lot easier to me, because growing up in that environment made it easier to comprehend, or have some kind of knowledge about what it is.

 

It doesn't mean she's not qualified to help, cap'n. At this point, everything is still only nebulous possibilities, so let's not count anyone out just yet.

 

I think that this idea is definatly at the point were a trial will be needed to be organised i suggest we get 5 people to be jurors, and then attempt a practice competition. I recon if we do it as a spriting competition at first mainly because this will get the most volounteers. What do you think?

 

I live with my Grandmother, she's like a second mom. Her art is all over the house, and she even commisioned me to make origami cranes out of cloth for her last piece. We've done other art projects together too through the years.
I took Art1 (and got an "A" in) Freshman year, and I've had other various art classes throughout my life. In Elementary school, we regularly got lessons on the most fameous artists in history, and practiced their tecnique. Which we did more of in Art1.

 

No way, definitely not yet. We still have no definitive way how to judge the art, or even 5 people to be jurors.

I would like to be one, however. Although I don't have any relatives in art, or anything like the above two, how is that going to help in Sprite Art? But yeah, I'm thinking of taking some art courses either this year or next, and I regularly hang out (Or just look ) in the art sections on various forums, and I know how things are rated.

 

lol @ ZM... but this is a cool idea. i would love to participate in any way i can!

 

I know what chiaroscuro is? If you find yourselves really short on hands, I have... instruction on various levels. Nothing significant, but enough to be able to help a teeny bit.

 

Ahahahaha! Trogdor strikes again!

 

See this is different, this has more meaning behind 'oh yea, my grandmother is an artist' and gives more trust in thought of you becoming a juror, or critic, or whatever it'll be :]


Also I like the idea of having a kind of comity judge a practice competition. Maybe we could do a kind of collaborative vote, one with the critics/whatevs. with their votes of the arts, then the general population's votes on the arts and average the votes together. But we'd have to imply a rule of no artist going around begging people to vote high for their art, because that's just wrong, and not really honorable/integrable.

 

*had to Urban Dictionary it*

"Someone who wants to be taken seriously, but comes across as ludicrous and irritating."

Ouuuuccchhh.

...Or is it the mythical creature? I DON'T KNOW.

At any rate, no, I fully acknowledge I'd be next to useless. But if there's something that needs doing and has no one to do it, I'll do it.

 

He is talking about the mythical creature, made popular by Strongbad. Your statement was oddly similar to a quote from a character in the video about Trogdor.

 

Huh. I had no idea about the Urban Dictionary part; I was referencing the Homestarrunner short about how you could have Skills of an Artist. He taught everyone to draw Trogdor the Dragon-Man, and the punching bag of the group had an amazingly detailed drawing, and mentioned something about chiauroscuro shading; in response to which, the main character lit the drawing on fire, proclaiming that Trogdor had struck again.

 

"Burninating the countryside! TROGDOR!" I love you Evan. Heres the link to the video, my science teacher plays this to all of his new students but i knew about it before b/c of my sister. SBemails are soooo addictive. http://www.homestarrunner.com/trogdor.html I can't belive that no one beat me to giving the link... But aaaanyway heres my real comment:

Pssshhh, no offense, but I learned what chiaroscuro (though maybe not how to spell it) was in 7th grade medieval history. I mean it still means something due to the fact that you're 16 and probably no one in your class does remember what it is, but still!!! But sure that's impressive. I know a biit more than most people about art but that's only because my 4/5 split and then 5th grade teacher was obsessed with science and art and that's like all we learned... I would be glad to help if you need me, but I'm sure that there are other, much more qualified people willing to help.

 

Actually that was the link to the game based off of the SBemail. Here's the link to the actual thing (though the game is fun too so check it out): http://www.homestarrunner.com/sbemail58.html