Refund Thread

Come here if you bought MT/BM/SM’s in the Daycare that become TM’s or Level Up Moves due to a new game or TM's that became Level Up Moves. You will get the move's price back (for level up) or the difference in price (for BM/MT/SM to TM).

NOTE: All changes have to be approved by a Mod/Official before they become official.

List of Daycare moves that have turned into TMs in BW. Use CTRL + F to find a Pokemon.

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Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur: Light Screen, Safeguard
Spearow/Fearow: False Swipe
Sandshrew/Sandslash: Safeguard
Vulpix/Ninetales: Energy Ball
Paras/Parasect: Light Screen
Psyduck/Golduck: Light Screen
Growlithe/Arcanine: Safeguard
Machop/Machoke/Machamp: Light Screen
Tentacool/Tentacruel: Safeguard
Kangaskhan: Safeguard
Scyther/Scizor: Light Screen, Safeguard
Dratini/Dragonair/Dragonite: Light Screen
Mareep/Flaaffy/Ampharos: Safeguard
Azurill/Marill/Azumarill: Light Screen
Hoppip/Skiploom/Jumpluff: Reflect, Psych Up
Wooper/Quagsire: Safeguard
Snubbull/Granbull: Reflect
Sneasel/Weavile: Reflect
Seedot/Nuzleaf/Shiftry: False Swipe
Ralts/Kirlia/Gardevoir/Gallade: Will-O-Wisp
Shroomish/Breloom: False Swipe
Feebas/Milotic: Light Screen

List of Moves that have changed into Natural/Level-Up Moves in BW

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Buizel/Floatzel: Aqua Tail (BM -> Natural)
Castform: Blizzard, Fire Blast, Hydro Pump (TMs -> Naturals)
Geodude/Graveler/Golem: Stealth Rock (TM -> Natural)
Hitmonchan: Focus Punch (TM -> Natural)
Lucario: Calm Mind (TM -> Natural)
Munchlax/Snorlax: Snatch (TM -> Natural)
Onix/Steelix: Stealth Rock (TM -> Natural)

List of Moves that turned into level up in B2W2:

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Sandshrew/Sandslash: TM Earthquake, TM Dig, TM Swords Dance
Clefairy/Clefable: TM Body Slam
Vulpix/Ninetales: BM Feint Attack, BM Hex
Zubat/Golbat/Crobat: TM Swift
Persian: TM Swift
Psyduck/Golduck: MT Aqua Tail
Magnemite/Magneton/Magnezone: TM Flash Cannon
Onix/Steelix: TM Dig, TM Rock Slide
Tangela/Tangrowth: TM Giga Drain
Staryu/Starmie: TM Brine
Mr. Mime: TM Psywave
Elekid/Electabuzz/Electivire: TM Thunder Wave
Eevee/Vaporeon/Jolteon/Flareon/Espeon/Umbreon/Leafeon/Glaceon: BM Covet, BM Charm, TM Double-Edge
Vaporeon: TM Water Pulse
Zapdos: TM Zap Cannon
Mareep/Flaaffy/Ampharos: BM Take Down
Azurill/Marill/Azumarill: BM Water Sport, MT Helping Hand
Marill/Azumarill: BM Superpower
Sudowoodo: MT Counter, TM Stone Edge
Sunkern/Sunflora: TM Natural Gift, MT Double-Edge
Sunkern: TM Solar Beam
Dunsparce: MT Double-Edge, TM Endure
Shuckle: TM Rock Slide, TM Stone Edge, SM Shell Smash
Sneasel/Weavile: TM Snatch, BM Punishment
Corsola: TM Endure
Mantyke/Mantine: BM Wide Guard
Wingull/Pelipper: MT Air Cutter
Pelipper: TM Brine
Numel/Camerupt: BM Yawn
Trapinch/Vibrava/Flygon: TM Rock Slide, TM Bulldoze, MT Mud-Slap
Swablu/Altaria: TM Round
Lunatone: TM Rock Slide, TM Stone Edge
Solrock: TM Stone Edge, TM Psychic
Skorupi/Drapion: BM Pursuit, BM Night Slash

List of Moves that have turned into TMs in XY.

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Bulbasaur/Ivysaur/Venusaur: Nature Power
Oddish/Gloom/Vileplume/Bellossom: Nature Power
Exeggcute/Exeggutor: Nature Power
Tangrowth: Nature Power
Sunkern/Sunflora: Nature Power
Corsola: Nature Power
Tropius: Nature Power
Patrat/Watchog: Sleep Talk
Lillipup/Herdier/Stoutland: Sleep Talk
Purrloin/Liepard: Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Pansage/Simisage: Sleep Talk
Pansear/Simisear: Sleep Talk
Panpour/Simipour: Sleep Talk
Munna/Musharna: Sleep Talk
Pidove/Tranquill/Unfezant: Sleep Talk
Blitzle/Zebstrika: Sleep Talk
Roggenrola/Boldore/Gigalith: Sleep Talk
Woobat/Swoobat: Roost, Sleep Talk
Drilbur/Excadrill: Sleep Talk
Audino: Sleep Talk
Timburr/Gurdurr/Conkeldurr: Sleep Talk
Tympole/Palpitoad/Seismitoad: Sleep Talk
Throh: Sleep Talk
Sawk: Sleep Talk
Sewaddle/Swadloon/Leavanny: Sleep Talk
Venipede/Whirlipede/Scolipede: Sleep Talk
Petilil/Lilligant: Sleep Talk
Basculin: Sleep Talk
Sandile/Krokorok/Krookodile: Dark Pulse, Sleep Talk
Maractus: Sleep Talk
Dwebble/Crustle: Sleep Talk
Scraggy/Scrafty: Dark Pulse, Sleep Talk
Sigilyph: Roost, Steel Wing, Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Tirtouga/Carracosta: Sleep Talk
Archen/Archeops: Roost, Steel Wing, Sleep Talk
Garbodor: Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Zorua/Zoroark: Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Minccino/Cinccino: Sleep Talk
Gothita/Gothorita/Gothitelle: Sleep Talk
Solosis/Duosion/Reuniclus: Sleep Talk
Ducklett/Swanna: Steel Wing, Sleep Talk
Vanillite/Vanillish/Vanilluxe: Sleep Talk
Deerling/Sawsbuck: Sleep Talk
Emolga: Sleep Talk, Roost
Karrablast/Escavalier: Sleep Talk
Foongus/Amoonguss: Sleep Talk
Alomomola: Sleep Talk
Joltik/Galvantula: Sleep Talk
Ferroseed/Ferrothorn: Sleep Talk
Klink/Klank/Klinklang: Sleep Talk
Litwick/Lampent/Chandelure: Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Axew/Fraxure/Haxorus: Sleep Talk
Cubchoo/Beartic: Sleep Talk
Cryogonal: Sleep Talk
Shelmet/Accelgor: Sleep Talk
Stunfisk: Sleep Talk
Mienshao/Mienshao: Sleep Talk
Druddigon: Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Golett/Golurk: Sleep Talk
Pawniard/Bisharp: Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Rufflet/Braviary: Roost, Sleep Talk
Vullaby/Mandibuzz: Roost, Steel Wing, Sleep Talk
Heatmor: Sleep Talk
Durant: Sleep Talk
Deino/Zweilous/Hydreigon: Sleep Talk, Dark Pulse
Hydreigon: Roost
Larvesta: Sleep Talk
Volcarona: Roost

List of Moves that have changed into Natural/Level Up Moves in ORAS:

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Pikachu/Raichu: TM Wild Charge
Zubat/Golbat/Crobat: TM Venoshock
Oddish/Gloom/Vileplume/Bellossom: TM Toxic
Machop/Machoke/Machamp: TM Bulk Up, BM Knock Off, MT Dual Chop
Doduo: TM Pluck
Tentacool/Tentacruel: TM Brine
Onix: TM Gyro Ball
Staryu/Starmie: TM Psychic, TM Psywave
Ampharos: TM Zap Cannon
Slugma/Magcargo: TM Incinerate
Corsola: TM Brine
Treecko/Grovyle/Sceptile: MT Endeavor
Combusken/Blaziken: TM Flame Charge
Marshtomp/Swampert: TM Rock Slide (now perma move for Mudkip)
Linoone: MT Double-Edge
Lotad/Lombre/Ludicolo: TM Giga Drain
Taillow/Swellow: BM Brave Bird
Surskit/Masquerain: BM Aqua Jet
Masquerain: MT Air Cutter
Shroomish/Breloom: TM Toxic
Whismur/Loudred/Exploud: TM Echoed Voice
Mawile: TM Taunt
Aron/Lairon/Aggron: TM Rock Slide, TM Rock Tomb
Meditite/Medicham: MT Counter, TM Endure
Medicham: MT Zen Headbutt
Volbeat: TM Struggle Bug
Illumise: TM Struggle Bug
Cacnea/Cacturne: TM Energy Ball
Zangoose: TM Hone Claws
Lileep/Cradily: TM Giga Drain
Anorith/Armaldo: TM Smack Down
Milotic: TM Dragon Tail
Kecleon: BM Camouflage
Shuppet/Banette: BM Phantom Force
Duskull/Dusclops/Dusknoir: TM Shadow Ball
Snorunt/Glalie/Froslass: TM Frost Breath
Huntail: MT Sucker Punch
Bagon/Shelgon/Salamence: TM Flamethrower
Regirock: TM Bulldoze
Regice: TM Bulldoze
Registeel: TM Bulldoze
Froslass: TM Shadow Ball

List of Moves that have turned into TMs in ORAS:

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Munna/Musharna: BM Secret Power
Solosis/Duosion/Reuniclus: BM Secret Power

List of moves that turned into level up in Sun/Moon:

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Beedrill: TM Venoshock
Mankey/Primeape: MT Outrage
Machamp: HM Strength
Magnemite/Magneton/Magnezone: TM Light Screen
Shellder/Cloyster: TM Water Gun
Mewtwo: TM Psywave
Spinarak/Ariados: TM Infestation
Dunsparce: MT Body Slam
Suicune: SM Sheer Cold
Poochyena/Mightyena: BM Fire Fang, BM Ice Fang, BM Play Rough, BM Thunder Fang, BM Yawn
Swalot: BM Venom Drench
Lunatone: TM Psyshock
Whiscash: BM Thrash
Stunky/Skuntank: MT Sucker Punch
Lucario: TM Work Up
Gallade: TM Aerial Ace
Audino: MT Hyper Voice

List of moves that turned into TMs in Sun/Moon:

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Yanmega: BM Leech Life -> TM Leech Life
Furfrou: BM Work Up -> TM Work Up

List of moves that become level-up in USUM:

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Tauros: TM Double-Edge -> Double-Edge
Dunsparce: TM Mud-Slap -> Mud-Slap
Rowlet/Dartrix/Decidueye: BM Ominous Wind -> Ominous Wind

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Delibird: MT Counter -> BM Counter
Zigzagoon/Linoone: SM Extreme Speed -> BM Extreme Speed

If however, you found a Daycare move that turned into a TM that isn't listed above, you may also post for verification. A Mod/Official will then post and approve you if it's valid. The same applies to BM/MT/TMs that have turned into Level-Ups and aren't listed above. It will also be added to this for future reference. In particular, B2W2 changes are in need of being added.

 

example post

 

My Venusaur has BM Safeguard (Post and Claim). I would like to exchange this for SM Ancientpower. In addition, I would like to purchase TM Safeguard for Venusaur's use ($6750-$4000=$2750). Please and thank you.

 

Approved.

 

My Weavile has Reflect. (Post)

I want the tm so.

10k-4k = 6k back.​

 

Actually, you'd get back a refund of $5k first. Then, since you want the TM, you will pay $4k, so you still get $1k back.

Your total amount is now 11k.

 

Actually according to that my total is 187k then. I thought the

meant you get 10k back then minus the TMs cost then you get the refund, didn't know the first number was my total amount lol.​

 

Scizor has Light Screen

I'd like the TM, so my refund should only be 1.5k (5-3.5).

Weavile has Reflect

I don't want the TM, so I'll just get 5k back.

My total refund should be 6.5k and TM Light Screen for Scizor.

 

Dragonite has Light Screen.

I'd like to purchase the TM though

5k - 3.5k = 1.5k refund

 

Stinky and TED both approved.

 

My Scizor has Light Screen and Gardevoir has Will-o-Wisp

3.5 + 3.5 = 7

179.5 - 7 = 172.5 and two daycare moves added to a someone (1 4 day Mon and 1 5 day Mon)

EDIT: I'll give Lapras Dragon Dance, and I know the other daycare move is for a four day mon and Lapras is five, but I can I give it to him(Heal Bell) and just leave him in for a day?


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Approved. You get to have an immediate exchange for Lapras, you don't have to wait.

 

Hitmonchan: Focus Punch (TM->LV) - $5,500

Castform: Blizzard (TM-LV) - $7,000

Lucario: Calm Mind (TM-LV) - $3,500

By my count that makes a total refund of $16,000

$32,750 + $16,000 = $48,750

 

My Scizor has Light Screen

I'll buy the TM $17,000-$3,500=$13,500

And I'll change the move into Counter for Gliscor

 

Lucario has Calm Mind as a Level-Up now

I'll just take the cashmoney.

23k + 3.5k = 26.5k

 

Approved.

Approved.

Lucario no longer has Calm Mind now. Approved.

 

Approved.

 

My Venusaur has Light Screen (BM); I would like to change it to Amnesia (BM).

My Scizor has Light Screen (BM), which is now a TM and worth $3,500. Therefore, I want $1,500 back.

My Dragonite has Light Screen (BM), which is now a TM and worth $3,500. Therefore, I want $1,500 back.

My Jumpluff has Reflect (BM), which is now a TM and worth $3,500. Therefore, I want $1,500 back.

That's a total of $4,500 back.

 

Pidge approved.

TM X-Scissor on Sceptile is now level up.
$30,750 + $6,000 = $36,750

Jumpluff has BM Reflect, replacing with TM and $1,500 refund.
$36,750 + $1,500 = $38,250