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Contest Beta (Join now or Die)

Discussion in 'Contests' started by AmericanTreeFrog, May 28, 2011.

  1. AmericanTreeFrog

    AmericanTreeFrog I eat Frogs

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    Greetings!

    I am pleased to announce that after some brainstorming and some input from Ataro and JokesterJesse I am pleased to announce the newest form of contest. This new form will be called double contests.

    Don’t let this new style intimidate you. Everything from a normal contest will remain roughly the same with a few differences. Everything that is not mentioned will remain the same, but if you need clarification feel free to post in this thread and they will be cleared up.

    Differences:

    Each contestant will be sending two Pokemon simultaneous that will work in concert with one another to win.

    The number of contestants will now be between 2 - 4 but for this beta period we are only going to allow four contestants.

    The rounds for both D/P and RSE will be increased to six for any double contests.

    In RSE the crowd meter will remain at five to get a boost; however, the meter will not raise unless both Pokemon from the contestant use the required contest type. This same system will be applied to DP where both Pokemon will appeal to the Judge to get the voltage to rise and to get points. The same system of handing out hearts will be the same as both your pokemon will essential count as one in the eyes of the judge.

    Combos will now be allowed in D/P as well as RSE (the combos for D/P will only apply for double contests and not single ones for the time being). In terms of differences the combo cannot be completed by a single Pokemon on your team. One Pokemon must use the move to set up the combo while the other completes it. For example, a Medicham uses Fire Punch while an Electivire uses Thunder Punch.

    You can only earn +20 hearts max now instead of the normal sixteen. The score of both Pokemon will also be counted as one instead of an individual score for both.

    Because this a new style, stats will not be allowed for now unless all contestants agree on them. However, when the stats of both Pokemon are totaled up that number will be divided by 2 to get the primary score.

    The money system will be the same but to encourage you guys to participate during our beta test the BC system will be increased to 1k = 4th, 1.5k = 3rd, 2k = 2nd, 2.5k = 1st

    Finally, this is a beta testing period where any kinks can be ironed out or things added that need to be. Post any thoughts or concerns here and they will be addressed accordingly.

    I will be adding new additions or things I forgot to add in this post.

    You do not need to post about wanting to be in the beta. Double contests can take place at anytime if your judge feels he/she is ready. You do also get money for playing (both judges and contestants).

    For judges, please post results here and do not add the money to your stats, I want to keep a wage count for this only. New judges cannot do a double contest, only the experienced ones.

     
    Last edited: May 30, 2011
  2. AmericanTreeFrog

    AmericanTreeFrog I eat Frogs

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    Discharge - Whirlpool

    Ice Beam - Discharge/Volt Tackle/Spark/Flame Wheel

    Bubblebeam - Aurosphere

    Whirlpool - Aursphere

    Sky Attack - Peck/Wing Attack

    Hydro Pump - Volt Tackle/Fire Spin

    Iron Defense - Ice Shard

    Mud Bomb - Shock Wave

    Shadow Claw - Blizzard

    Signal Beam - Iron Tail

    Psycho Cut - Thunder Wave/Thunder bolt

    Haze - Sonic Boom

    Silver Wind - Sludge Bomb/Poison Sting/Blizzard

    Agility - Focus Punch

    Sandstorm - Scary Face/Mean Look

    Aqua Jet - Icebeam

    Ice Shard - Discharge


    Thanks go to JokesterJesse for researching combos. More like these will be added as we make more. These specific combos come from the anime. If you have any suggestions for combo from the anime or made up yourself send them to me with your reasoning.​
     
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  3. SLCalamity

    SLCalamity TYKG

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    I want to beta.

    Now to read the post ;)
     
  4. Turtwig A

    Turtwig A Stumped

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    I want to be a beta tester.
     
  5. JokesterJesse

    JokesterJesse Member

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    I helped so of course im in!
     
  6. Alaskapigeon

    Alaskapigeon The Hyacinth Girl

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    Can't wait to see how you guys do this. ;D
     
  7. Dinobot

    Dinobot Leader of the Autobots

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    I'll test the beta
     
  8. Pman

    Pman Insane Particle Collider

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    Can I just clarify, is that 2nd post the dp only combos? do RS combos count in dp?
     
  9. JokesterJesse

    JokesterJesse Member

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    no. That list is for doubles contests, the combos are for both R/S/E and D/P, but R/S/E combos cannot be used in double contests, because two mons are being used instead of one, thus a new list of combos for doubles.
     
  10. Morru

    Morru ever so slightly

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    I hope this will be successful because it definitely will be an interesting addition to URPG Contests. :D

    Count me in! EDIT: If there's still a spot left. ^^;;
     
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  11. SLCalamity

    SLCalamity TYKG

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    Thinking about it, imo (although I don't really mind), the pay for at least the judges seems like too low at the moment, being unchanged. If I were to tell you 8 mons, 6 rounds, you'd think of a festivals pay which is 5k for eight mons. It's the same amount of effort. Maybe a scale, so it remains the same for 2 contestants, and increases slightly for the amount of participants?
     
  12. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    Count me in. Seems good BUT BAN ENCORE AND BATON PASS.
     
  13. Morru

    Morru ever so slightly

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    Question: If raising the CM in R/S/E needs both the two pokemon to perform matching attribute moves, how about lowering the CM? Does it take only one Pokemon to use a noncompatible move to lower it, or do both Pokemon have to perform noncompatible moves for it to be lowered? ?__?
    /rambles
     
  14. HikaruIzumi

    HikaruIzumi Too cool for real life.

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    Is it possible to do the combos the other way around, like original: Discharge - Whirlpool; performed: Whirlpool - Discharge?? If not, how will be determined which Pokemon moves first of the 2?? What about stars?? When both of the Pokemon gain a star will they get +2 or +1?? What about nervousness, will it be individual for each of the 2 Pokemon or the 2 Pokemon will be nervous/not nervous based on one roll?? (since the points and raising voltage/crowd meter are the same) What about strandings between rounds?? Will the Pokemon be at the same standing or at different ones?? In other words, will they be in one team in standings or individually?? What about moves based on the standings?? (such as Dragon Rage in R/S/E)

    This idea sounds great. :-D If it's still possible to be in the beta test (since there are already many people I doubt that) count me in. Or just count me in to the first non-beta double contest. ^_^
     
  15. JokesterJesse

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    Thats a good question, maybe the CM should be raised to 10, if it is if one mon moves a noncompatabile type move and it goes down.

    I believe doing combos the other way around might work, but for the turn order, the doubles TEAM with the most points will move first, but the pokemon who scored the most individual points of the two will perform first (But if it is that way then doing the combos the other way around may not work, making it more about thinking and planing.) For stars I think each pokemon will have there own individual stars and for THEIR moves they will get plus one. For nervousness each mon will have their own rolls I think. I think the standings will be together, but im not sure about the moves based on standings.

    My answers might not be right though ATF will probably have to say if im right, im just going by my common knowledge of contests, and what me and ATF have been talking about.

    Keep the questions coming, and if you see me or atf on feel free to ask questions on aim or ask them in here!
     
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  16. AmericanTreeFrog

    AmericanTreeFrog I eat Frogs

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    No, the pay for judges will remain the same. Refs don't get extra money for doubles and the same applies here for now. If we need to it can be changed later on but for now it is fine.

    For now on the meter both will have to use a move for it to lower, if this doesn't work out then we can change the meter. This is why we're having this test period, to see how things function and if need be to change them.

    For the combos, for now those are the ones you can use. Later more will be edited in and we might include some from the RSE combos; but the idea is for the two Pokemon to work in concert like in the anime. Jesse is right about the turn order and combos can be done in any order, you can use Discharge then whirlpool because technically like in the anime your Pokemon would be moving simultaneously. For stars Jesse is right again, each Pokemon has her or her own chance.

    For moves like Dragon Rage it will be slightly modified. The first two spots = 1, third and fourth = 2 and so on and forth. If you have questions about things like these post them here and I'll create a FAQ.

    Anybody can do a beta contest, you need not sign up and there is no limit. The more people who join the more contests we can have to test this out.
     
  17. Pman

    Pman Insane Particle Collider

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    refs don't get payed extra for double battles but they get paid based on the number of mons so there is no work increase.

    here you are proposing doubling the amount of mons without increasing the pay
     
  18. AmericanTreeFrog

    AmericanTreeFrog I eat Frogs

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    R/S/E contest
    Normal Cool


    Morru Magnum w/ Gliscor & Houndoom[2]
    VS
    Bumblebee w/ Houndoom[1] & Gengar
    VS
    AlaskaPidgeon w/ Dragonite & Swellow
    VS
    SLCalamity w/ Metapod & Weezing


    Dragonite was in the lead for the first rounds then it stalled and allowed the other to catch up to become a close contest.

    Notes: Complicated Crowd Meter, took until the fifth round to reach max of 5 and only fell once.

    Contestant feedback: Crowd meter is too complicated. Add more combos RSE included. Long (my fault here as I was slow the first three rounds).


    1st[ribbon]: Dragonite-Swellow w/ 900pts. +2k & 2.5k CC
    2nd: Gliscor-Houndoom[2] w/ 880pts. +1.5k & 2k CC
    3rd: Gengar-Houndoom[1] w/ 760pts + 1.5k & 1.5k CC
    4th: Metapod-Weezing w/ 540pts +1k & 1k CC

    Me: 2.0k
     
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  19. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

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    Okay, I will do it! Ask me whenever I'm online!

    (idk about judging yet)
     
  20. JokesterJesse

    JokesterJesse Member

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    I have a question, in a doubles contest, if you win do both pokemon get the ribbon like earning two at once?