1. This site uses cookies. By continuing to use this site, you are agreeing to our use of cookies. Learn More.
  2. If your account is currently registered using an @aol.com, @comcast.net or @verizon.net email address, you should change this to another email address. These providers have been rejecting all emails from @bulbagarden.net email addresses, preventing user registrations, and thread/conversation notifications. If you have been impacted by this issue and are currently having trouble logging into your account, please contact us via the link at the bottom right hand of the forum home, and we'll try to sort things out for you as soon as possible.
  3. Bulbagarden has launched a new public Discord server. Click Here!

URPG Ranked Ladders

Discussion in 'Tournaments' started by Monbrey, Feb 21, 2014.

  1. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    6,305
    Likes Received:
    450
    [​IMG]

    URPG Ladder is back, and has been revamped into something much less activity based.

    Instead, we're going to pretend to be much more professional than that and use a proper ELO system to rank battlers against one another. This means that battling people far below your ELO rank will get you little or no gains in the ladder - preying on those of us who think Metagross learns Stone Edge wont further your progress.

    What's more, there will be two URPG Ladders running - a general ranked ladder for those of us who want a more serious game, and a randoms ladder for a more laid back competition. You're welcome to compete in both, keeping in mind the different nature of the two styles.

    These ladders are intended to be able to run indefinitely. Assuming participation is enough to warrant it, they will continue to do so. Prizes may be awarded, and will be determined based on participation.

    The ladder rankings can be found here:
    Ranked Ladder
    Randoms Ladder

    For a battle to qualify for Ladder ranking, it must meet the following criteria.
    • 4v4 minimum
    • Revolution or B/W Revolution
    • Holds On, unless agreed by both battlers
    • Normal Weather/Terrain
    • Sleep/Freeze/OHKO/Accuracy/Evasion Clauses
    The randoms ladder also requires that all Pokemon are rolled at random from the battlers stats, by the ref. Any basic Pokemon may be optionally rerolled by the user.
    Referees should log the battle normally, and post a link to the post in their log here.
    Gym, Elite Four, other Tournaments or any form of special battle are not eligible for ladder rankings.

    If that's all you needed to know, battles can officially count towards the ladder when Sunday 23/02/14 begins in GMT. You can post here to have your name added to the ladder with an initial value, or you can just wait to do your first ladder battle and you'll be added automatically. You can join at any time.

    If you're interested in how the ELO is calculated, read ahead.

    The ELO System:
    The ELO system was originally invented to rank Chess players against one another, by determining their relative skill levels. This allows it to be used for basically any 1v1 competition, and has been appropriated for many video games. The Pokemon Showdown ladders use a similar system.

    The difference between two players' ELO ratings serves as a method of predicting a player's "chance of winning". A difference of 400 points means the higher player is, statistically, 10 times more likely to win.

    This calculated "chance of winning" is used to determine how many ELO points a player should lose or gain from a single match.
    For example (note these are only theoretical numbers and do not consider weighting factors):

    Two people of even ELO battle. They have a 50:50 chance of winning. The winner will gain 50 points, and the loser will lose 50 points.

    Two people with a 400 ELO difference battle. There is a 91:9 chance (approximately 10 times) of the higher player winning. If the higher player does win, they will gain 9 points, and the loser will lose 9. However if an upset victory occurs, the higher player will lose 91 points, and the lower player will gain 91.

    The example above does not use a weighting factor. Most competitive systems, and this one, use a weighting factor that drops as the number of matches played increases. This means that players on their initial matches will lose or gain a larger number of ELO points than more established players. This allows them to roughly get to their correct spot on the ladder faster, and then settle into a more accurate spot as the weighting factor decreases.

    In the URPG system, all players will start with an ELO of 1200. The weighting factor begins at 100, and reduces based on the number of battles until it eventually reaches a constant of 40.

    More information can be found on Wikipedia, and several games that use an ELO ranking system.

    In addition, if any mods are interested in keeping the ladders updated, an ELO calculator has been written and is available at the following links. They are private, and you will need to IM me your Gmail address so I can provide permissions and a quick explanation of how it works.
     
    Last edited: Mar 8, 2014
  2. Ataro

    Ataro URPG Official

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2010
    Messages:
    5,011
    Likes Received:
    114
    [​IMG]
     
  3. DarknessRuler

    DarknessRuler Hu's on first

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Aug 23, 2013
    Messages:
    416
    Likes Received:
    8
    Yea I want in on this.
     
  4. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
    Random Ladder Battle #1 - DR beats Proto.

    I updated right away too. Good thinking adding that updated til box on the calc, Monbrey.
     
  5. CommBA

    CommBA Unregistered User

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    16
    Last edited by a moderator: Feb 23, 2014
  6. Monbrey

    Monbrey Pyromaniac

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Apr 20, 2010
    Messages:
    6,305
    Likes Received:
    450
    I need to know which Ladder a battle is for too.
    @CommBA;
     
  7. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  8. CommBA

    CommBA Unregistered User

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    16
    It was randoms
     
  9. swiftgallade46

    swiftgallade46 Now with Mega Evolution

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 28, 2013
    Messages:
    3,891
    Likes Received:
    1,028
  10. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  11. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  12. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  13. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  14. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  15. CommBA

    CommBA Unregistered User

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Jun 17, 2011
    Messages:
    2,354
    Likes Received:
    16
  16. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  17. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  18. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  19. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279
  20. WinterVines

    WinterVines Virbank Gym Leader

    Blog Posts:
    0
    Joined:
    Sep 21, 2010
    Messages:
    6,198
    Likes Received:
    279