E4 Eligibility

As it stands, to become eligible to challenge an E4 member, a member must have complete sets of badges from two regions. This seemed like a good idea and many thought it could allow for more people to progress the battling system, and maybe there'd be a lot more Elite Four battles! Who doesn't love the truest competition of the elite battlers well bar some of the refs

As it is, it is possible to get enough badges to challenge E4, but it's not very practical if that makes sense. With only two out of the six regions full, this means that a battler must aquire all twelve badges out of a maximum twelve. This isn't even taking inactivity of some gym leaders into account (which is a seperate issue imo). If we have a rollcall instead of trying to implement a new system then we'll just end up with even less occupied gyms

Personally I think a nice addition to the E4 eligibility would be having a certain number of badges. In addition to this making it manageable to be able to challenge E4, it would also give the Orange Island Gyms at least a bit of purpose. How many badges would obviously have to be at least twelve, but the actual number isn't as important as having another way to challenge E4.

There are plenty of really good battlers who've never had to chance to E4, which was a really important part of the URPG for a long time afaik. E4 battles are great for community morale too so yeah go E4!

 

I really fail to see what you're aiming for...Are you aiming for an easier way for people to be able to challenge the elite four or change the gym system again?

The new system states that a trainer must complete 2 sets of the 6 badges from two regions meaning they must have 12 badges. If two of the six regions are full then anyone can complete the regions and make a challenge to the Elite 4. I see no issue here.

 

Make challenging the E4 more accessible. Anyone who has tried to become E4 eligible in the last few months can tell you that it is quite impossible.

 

Eh I think rather than just changing the way to challenge the e4 - i think we need to focus upon improving gym leader activity.

 

Not to mention that the fact that there are only two filled regions means that there is really no reason to challenge gyms from unfilled regions anyway since their badges dont contribute to E4 eligibility. I kinda agree. Well actually im not sure. If what Syn is proposing is that we should need twelve (maybe more?) badges total rather than having to be from two regions, then yeah I agree. Also tbh I personally havent had much of an issue with GL activity. Sure there are some that don't get on AIM very often, but most if not all gym leaders are contactable from what I've seen. The real issue (that I'm not really helping with lol) is that there arent enough filled gym spots to justify needing all the badges from two regions.

 

I don't see the eligibility requirements as the problem - its the unfilled gyms. Unfortunately people simply aren't applying for them. Previously we had a situation where pretty much everyone already had a gym but that isn't the case now.

I'd rather encourage more people to become gym leaders and develop their skills.

 

Sooooo anything getting done about this? Cuz now it is actually impossible to gain eligibility to challenge E4...

 

Obviously having more gym leaders would be ideal, but if people who should have gyms insist on not wanting them then there should probably be a change. Especially since it's impossible now and looks like it will be for some time to come.

 

Just out of interest, how is it impossible? Yeah, there are gaps in the line ups but this has pretty much always been a thing anyway.

 

You need two fully completed regions. There is only one full league out of six since Airik dropped.

 

New alternate eligibility requirements will be to have at least 75% of the badges for all owned gyms, with a minimum of 18 badges if 75% would be less than that.

To account for the fact that an increase in gym ownership could result in a battler no longer being qualified, anybody who obtains at least one Elite Four victory will remain qualified regardless of gym ownership levels.

 

Is that one E4 victory since becoming eligible or one E4 victory from anytime before? Losing to Champ resets E4 wins, so just making sure.

Still, that looks good. Thanks!

 

I think "since becoming eligible" would be the best option. However although Champion does reset E4 wins, I don't think it should reset eligibility.

 

Since I heard some people unsure about this, I figure it's best to ask to be clear:

Does Orange Islands count? @Monbrey;

 

I still am in belief that having empty gyms for the sake of having empty gyms is a little silly, but I don't mind this solution. also orange islands please don't count

 

They barely even count as a gym, let alone an eligible badge.

But logically speaking, the OI region never counted towards eligibility, so no, the badges don't count.

Yeah, I know. I'd rather have flexible requirements than a league system that is constantly changing size. I know you think Dojos are a solution, but setting up a league that isn't really a league doesn't really help overall. If anything I think draws attention away from gyms.

 

OI should count to at least give them kind of a purpose. Or burn them down.

 

Harry wont let me.