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TM Price Changes!

Discussion in 'General' started by swiftgallade46, Apr 13, 2015.

  1. swiftgallade46

    swiftgallade46 Now with Mega Evolution

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    Yep, you read right! This isn't a joke thread. This is a bit overdue, but there are a handful of TMs whose prices were a bit inconsistent in ratio with their usability in battle. Therefore, we decided to lower and raise the prices of a few TMs. Here are the changes with the reasonings behind why they were changed:

    • Mega Punch: 3k -> 2k TM Frustration and TM Return pretty much make this move obsolete unless you're going for NUKEM.
    • Take Down: 3k -> 2k TM Double-Edge makes this obsolete.
    • Water Gun: 3k -> 2k Self-explanatory.
    • Pay Day: 3k -> 2k Self-explanatory.
    • Mega Drain: 3.5k -> 2k TM Giga Drain makes this obsolete.
    • Bide: 3k -> 2.5k It's not that great of a move, but can be very situationally, I guess.
    • Curse: 3.5k -> 3k To remain consistent with TM Calm Mind, TM Bulk Up, and TM Work Up which are all currently 3k.
    • Metronome: 5k -> 3k Luck based and 95% of the time will not help you.
    • Swift (that's me!): 4k -> 3.5k because I suck To remain consistent with TM Aerial Ace which is currently 3.5k.
    • Soft-Boiled: 5k -> 4k To remain consistent with TM Roost which is currently 4k. You're welcome, Mew and perma Exeggcute!!
    • Rollout: 4k -> 2.5k Not as OP as it was in Gen 2. RIP Whitney's Miltank.
    • Icy Wind: 4.5k -> 3.5k It's a good move, but the 55 Base Power doesn't really justify being worth 4.5k.
    • Dragon Breath: 4.5k -> 3.5k Base Power is too low for a 4.5k-tier TM.
    • Sleep Talk: 4k -> 3k Less luck based than Metronome, but still usually ends up being useless more often than not.
    • Thief: 4.5k -> 2.5k This move isn't used too often, and it's really not that great.
    • Nightmare: 4k -> 3k Too unpredictable due to sleep counters. Not the best of stall-out moves.
    • Dragon Pulse: 4.5k -> 4k For consistency's sake. Ice Beam was cheaper with higher Base Power and a freeze chance.
    • Silver Wind: 4.5k -> 4k Base Power is low even with the great (but rare) effect it has.
    • Embargo: 4k -> 2.5k Too situational for 4k.
    • Avalanche: 4.5k -> 3.5k Negative priority and only situationally good Base Power make it not really worth 4.5k.
    • Pluck: 4.5k -> 3.5k Base Power is low and effect is situational.
    • Retaliate: 4.5k -> 3.5k To remain consistent with TM Facade.
    • Smack Down: 4k -> 3k Base Power is low and effect is situational.
    • Roar: 2.5k -> 3k Has become very good in Generation 6; it goes through even Protect now, and never misses.
    • Whirlwind: 2.5k -> 3k Same as TM Roar.
    • Rock Tomb: 3k -> 3.5k Had an accuracy bump recently, and should be consistent with other damaging moves that also lower/raise speed.
    • Flame Charge: 4k -> 3.5k Base Power is low. Should be consistent with Rock Tomb/Icy Wind etc.


    And that's it! The Marts on all 3 forums will be modded to reflect these changes soon after this post. Until then, prices will remain the same. Be sure to update your EM lists!
     
  2. Neonsands

    Neonsands Iron From Ice

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    Thanks staff for working hard and keeping things updated for all of us!
     
  3. Synthesis

    Synthesis ._.

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    I like it. Why not just have all the speed lowering moves the same though? Icy Wind/Rock Tomb/Low Sweep/Bulldoze/maybe more
     
  4. Ace Trainer Liam

    Ace Trainer Liam Seafarer

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    Neat; can we claim money in differences for EMs our Pokemon already know and jazz, or is that all lolno?
     
  5. swiftgallade46

    swiftgallade46 Now with Mega Evolution

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    We made them all 3.5k, I believe. Did I miss one?

    lolno