B/W is Released!

Ataro · Mar 6, 2011

Although this was an hour later than the expected time, this is still the first time ever in URPG, that a new generation launches on the same date of the games release.

B/W is officially released!

What this means:-

General:
-EM Limit: Is unlimited now. You may buy as many Daycare moves as you like, as long as you can afford it.
-Gyms: You can now apply for B/W Gyms when Pidge gets the thread up. The total amount of Pokemon allowed in Gym Lineups have been increased to 12. To have 12 Pokemon, you need to have 8 Owned.
-Gen Discrepancies: Accuracy, BP, and Mechanics of Moves and Abilities will all follow the most current version.
-Item Trade: Now possible.
-Karrablast/Shelmet: You can either evolve by using the real method (do a TATB with the other species), or simply by purchasing a Soothe Bell.

Marketplace:
You may now purchase and use any B/W Pokemon, Moves, or Items. Remember to check out the new Dream World Center, and a the newly renovated Underground!

You can now bid at either forum's Auction House as well! Do check the auction thread for more detais.

Battles:
Unlike other generations so far, the B/W input didn't have any major change (physical/special splits still stay the same). The only differences are mechanics and BP changes. Do check out a list provided below for a compiled list of changes to the previous Moves/Abilities/Items so that you can easily understand and note the changes.

We have also removed D/P/P rules, because it is entirely the same as B/W. You can now battle with B/W rules. D/P/P Battle Revolution remains, and the B/W Revolution (tentative) allows you to battle the same as previous Revolution styles, except the Pokemon sent are revealed to both battlers at the start. The Reffing Encyclopedia have also been updated with the new moves and abilities. All About Battles have been updated with the new rules and items.

Official B/W Calculator (thanks Monbrey)

Stories/National Park:
The story lists have also been updated. You may post your wonderful stories/RPs to capture these new Pokemon.

New Trainers can also start with the new Pokemon now.

Enjoy your new Pokemon and have fun out there. Any questions concerning this release can be put here.

Changes for old moves/abilities/items/etc.:

Moves
Acupressure: Now hits targets behind a Substitute.
Aromatherapy: (and likely Heal Bell) Now lists every Pokemon that was healed, and what status condition was cured.
Assist: Read RefPedia/Smogon.
Baton Pass: For a Baton Passed Mean Look, you can't switch out if the Mean Look's user is still on the field now.
Beat Up: New damage formula uses the Attack of each attacker and Defense of the target, but its BP for each hit = 5 + (Base Attack of Attacker / 10). However, if the user's Attack is boosted through the use of an ability, move or item, all Beat Up hits will be boosted.
Bind: accuracy 75% -> 85%
Brick Break: No longer breaks Reflect\Light Screen if the target is immune to it.
Bullet Seed: power 10 -> 25
Clamp: accuracy 75% -> 85%
Cotton Spore: accuracy 85% - 100%
Covet: power 40 -> 60
Crabhammer: accuracy 85% -> 90%
Disable: accuracy 90% -> 100%
Doom Desire: power 120 -> 140 ; accuracy 85% -> 100%. Damage is no longer typeless. And type resistance\immunities apply only to the Pokemon it hits. It can get STAB and it calculates damage using the SpDef of the target when it hits. Future Sight and Doom Desire cannot be queued up against the same target simultaneously.
Drain Punch: power 60 -> 75; PP 5 -> 10
Encore: Now lasts exactly 3 turns.
Explosion: No longer halves the Defense of the targets, making it effectively 250 power instead of 500.
Feint: Now hits a Pokemon even if it doesn't use Protect\Detect, and still nullifies them. Is blocked by Fast Guard.
Fire Fang: No longer hits through Wonder Guard even if it is not a super-effective attack.
Fire Spin: power 15 -> 35; accuracy 70% -> 85%
Focus Punch]: "charging" message now shows up after the opponent switches a Pokemon, not before.
Fury Cutter: power 10 -> 20
Future Sight: power 80 -> 100; PP 15 -> 10; accuracy 90% -> 100%
Giga Drain: power 60 -> 75
Glare: accuracy 75% -> 90%
Growth: Now raises the user's Attack and SpAttk. If the weather is Sun, Growth raises Attack and SpAttk two stages each.
Heal Bell: Now cures Pokemon with Soundproof.
Hi Jump Kick: power 100 -> 130; PP 20 -> 10. Recoil damage upon missing is now equal to 1/2 of the user's max HP.
Icicle Spear: power 10 -> 25
Ingrain: The trapping effect can no longer be Baton Passed
Jump Kick: power 85 -> 100; PP 25 -> 10. Recoil damage upon missing is now equal to 1/2 of the user's max HP.
Klutz: Now prevents the use of Fling.
Last Resort: power 130 -> 140
Lunar Dance: No longer forces an immediate switch to another Pokemon; if the opponent\other Pokemon on the field still have to make their move, they will do so and then the turn will end.
Magic Coat: Now reflects Whirlwind, Roar, Disable, Spite, Spikes, Foresight, Encore, Torment, Taunt, Odor Sleuth, Miracle Eye, Embargo, Heal Block, Toxic Spikes, Defog, and Stealth Rock
Magma Storm: accuracy 70% -> 75%
Meditate: PP 20 -> 40
Me First: Now triggers Sucker Punch.
Mind Reader: PP 40 -> 5
Minimize: Now raises the user's evasion by two levels.
Nature Power: Becomes Earthquake in Wi-Fi battles.
Multi-turn moves: (eg. Outrage) No longer lose 1 PP on subsequent turns against a Pokemon with Pressure.
Payback: No longer deals double damage if the target is switching out, but still deals double damage so long as the target moves first, even if it isn't attacking.
Petal Dance: power 90 -> 120; PP 20 -> 10
Poison Gas: accuracy 55% -> 90%
Rock Blast: accuracy 80% -> 90%
Sand Tomb: power 15 -> 35; accuracy 70% -> 85%
Roost: A pure Flying type using this will now become Normal type for the rest of that turn instead of ???-type.
Secret Power: has a 30% chance of inflicting an accuracy drop in Wi-Fi battles.
Selfdestruct: No longer halves the Defense of the targets, making it effectively 200 power instead of 400.
Sleep Talk: No longer fails after the first use if the user is holding a Choice item.
Snatch: steals Conversion, Wish, Recycle, Imprison, Healing Wish, Power Trick, Lucky Chant, Aqua Ring, Magnet Rise, and Lunar Dance.
Spikes: Not a B/W change, but Smogon and Bulbapedia had it wrong throughout, only Serebii had it right. Instead of it being 12.5%, then 18.75%, then 25%, it is actually 12.5%, then 16.66...%, then 25%. That can also be converted to 1/8 of max HP, then 1/6 of max HP, and finally 1/4 of max HP.
Substitute: Life Orb will hurt the user even if it hits a Substitute now. Blocks Transform and Clear Smog. Does not block Mimic, Sketch, and Grudge.
Tackle: power 35 -> 50; accuracy 95% -> 100%
Tail Glow: Now raises the user's SpAtk +3.
Tailwind: Now lasts 4 turns.
Taunt: Now lasts exactly 3 turns.
Thrash: power 90 -> 120; PP 20 -> 10
Toxic: accuracy 85% -> 90%
Trick: If the Trick user holding a Choice item swaps with another Pokemon holding a Choice item, they are not locked into Trick the turn immediately after.
Uproar: power 50 -> 90. Now lasts exactly 3 turns.
Whirlpool: power 15 -> 35; accuracy 70% -> 85%
Wish: No longer heals 50% of the recipient's HP. Wish now heals the recipient by 50% of the user's max HP, rounded up. (If Shedinja uses Wish and switches Vaporean in, it restores 1 HP.)
Wrap: accuracy 85% -> 90%

Abilities
Air Lock: Now gives an activation notification upon entering battle.
Cloud Nine: Now gives an activation notification upon entering battle.
Color Change: Now only activates on the last hit of a multi-hit attack.
Intimidate: Now activates if the previous Pokemon used U-turn to switch out and break an opposing Substitute.
Leaf Guard: Now prevents the holder from using Rest during sunny weather
Klutz: Prevents the use of Fling.
Lightningrod: Now grants immunity to Electric attacks, including Thunder Wave, as well as a SpAttk boost upon being hit with an Electric move. Ground-types with Lightningrod do not get a SpAttk boost from being hit with an Electric attack; type immunity takes precedence.
Magic Guard: No longer prevents the Pokemon from becoming fully paralyzed.
Pickup: If your opponent or ally uses a consumable item, Pickup will give the Pokemon the item used (depending on the item), provided they are not holding an item at the end of the turn. If multiple Pickup Pokemon are in play, the fastest will pick up a copy of the used Berry, and may or may not use it immediately. Check Refpedia/Smogon for list of items.
Skill Swap: Now shows which abilities are swapped in battle.
Stench: Gives the Pokemon's damaging attacks a chance to flinch, even ones with an existing side effect. Does not stack with King's Rock. Each hit of a multi-hit move has it's own flinch rate with Stench. The flinch rate seems to be approximately 8-10%.
Storm Drain: Now give immunity to Water attacks as well as a SpAttk boost upon being hit with a Water move.
Sturdy: Always lets a Pokemon at full health to survive any hit with 1 HP, even if the ability has been activated before. If a Pokemon has both Focus Sash and Sturdy, Sturdy activates first.
Synchronize: Now afflicts the attacker with Toxic poison instead of regular poison, if the Synchronize Pokemon is poisoned by Toxic\Poison Fang.

Items
Iron Ball: Holder receives neutral damage from Ground moves if it is part Flying type regardless of the Pokemon's other type.
Life Orb: Now damages you if you hit a Substitute.

Misc.
> Sleep counters now reset to their original number if the sleeping Pokemon is switched out.
> Trapping moves that deal damage (Fire Spin, Sand Tomb, etc.) now last 4-5 turns.
> Multi-hit moves now have 33.3% chance to hit either 2 or 3 times and 16.6% to hit either 4 or 5 times
> Rough Skin ability: Check RefPedia/Smogon for more info.

> Multi-hit Moves: Nnow break through Focus Sash and Sturdy. If the first hit would not be an OHKO, Focus Sash\Sturdy never trigger. If the first hit would have been an OHKO, Focus Sash and Sturdy would trigger, but subsequent hits would KO the Pokemon. Treated as separate attacks, triggering some abilities multiple times. This includes recoil from Rough Skin\Iron Barbs\Rugged Helmet, Breakable Armor activation. However, if the ability makes the target immune to the attack, such as with Bullet Seed against Herbivore, the ability only activates once.
However, for the purposes of Life Orb and the Metronome item multi-hit moves are treated as a single attack.
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Ataro · Mar 6, 2011

I almost forgot this.

You can participate in Triple Battles now. However, not all referees might feel ready to ref that, so make sure your Referee is comfortable with that before you ask him/her to ref.

Rotation Battles is not available for the time being, due to the lack of data and those stuff. I believe the new B/W input with all the new stuffs, plus the Triple Battles, is enough to keep us busy for now anyway. :bounce:

TheEvilDookie · Mar 6, 2011

Since the EM limit is now unlimited, if we ever paid for an old EM but decided to switch it for a new one in the past, if we provide a link to every transaction, can we get a refund for the switch and add the old EM back on?

Edit: nvm a refund would be bad, but could we at least get the move back?

Pidge · Mar 6, 2011

TheEvilDookie said: ↑

Since the EM limit is now unlimited, if we ever paid for an old EM but decided to switch it for a new one in the past, if we provide a link to every transaction, can we get a refund for the switch and add the old EM back on?

Edit: nvm a refund would be bad, but could we at least get the move back?
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Err, why? Don't you already have a move of equivalent value for it...

TheEvilDookie · Mar 6, 2011

Pidge said: ↑

Err, why? Don't you already have a move of equivalent value for it...
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Because we had to pay money for the switch. I wasn't totally sure of how this would work when I first posted, but now I finally got it: a refund of money for all the switches done, but we dont get the moves back? x_x

Pman · Mar 6, 2011

can we use that calculator in ref tests?

I wouldn't use the item stuff anyway because i don't trust it lol, same with abilities

Monbrey · Mar 6, 2011

pman said: ↑

can we use that calculator in ref tests?

I wouldn't use the item stuff anyway because i don't trust it lol, same with abilities
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http://monbrey.net76.net/testcalc.htm

Mubz · Mar 6, 2011

Extremespeed's priority is now +2 in BW compared to +1 in DP, allowing it to outspeed other priority attacks like Quick Attack and Mach Punch.

Monbrey · Mar 6, 2011

And Fake Out is +3, outspeeding even Extremespeed

Ataro · Mar 7, 2011

mubz said: ↑

Extremespeed's priority is now +2 in BW compared to +1 in DP, allowing it to outspeed other priority attacks like Quick Attack and Mach Punch.
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Monbrey said: ↑

And Fake Out is +3, outspeeding even Extremespeed
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Yes. Priority tables and all those sorts can be found here.

http://bmgf.bulbagarden.net/showpost.php?p=2876163&postcount=5

All ref tests should be conducted using this calculator. Thanks to Monbrey again. Like with the previous times, if a member is caught using the calculator with more functions, he will fail the ref test immediately (mind you, we can actually tell).

Pman · Mar 7, 2011

so has monbrey programmed the formala differently?

Monbrey · Mar 7, 2011

pman said: ↑

so has monbrey programmed the formala differently?
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Not exactly. There were always small discrepancies between the old and new calc. I left it exactly as is, but added the Gen V Pokemon.

Pman · Mar 7, 2011

Monbrey said: ↑

Not exactly. There were always small discrepancies between the old and new calc. I left it exactly as is, but added the Gen V Pokemon.
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I knew about the discrepancies...I do like that everyone knows you can tell who is cheating..

do you have uni 2moz morning or can I steal you for a test?

Monbrey · Mar 7, 2011

pman said: ↑

I knew about the discrepancies...I do like that everyone knows you can tell who is cheating..

do you have uni 2moz morning or can I steal you for a test?
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Working all day, then uni in the evening, then staying at my girlfriends for the night.

Very busy :drool:

TheEvilDookie · Mar 17, 2011

To whomever said that a refund for the money of switching a daycare move would be a hassle (which according to my source was at least 3 people), please explain your reasoning?

If you want my reasoning for why it isn't a hassle, first off create a thread saying "Post here with a link to all the transactions in which you switched moves in the daycare with and we'll approve it" and then each person would go out and find each one. It took me less than 2 minutes to find them all.

http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3195501#post3195501
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3193525#post3193525
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3192860#post3192860
http://www.pokemonelite2000.com/forum/showthread.php?p=3192149#post3192149

So once more I ask, where's the hassle in which the time spent exceeds the overall value of the proposal?

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